NWMSU Bearcats 2019-2020

[Alfred33]

How dare you have an opinion of a team and then share that opinion in a public forum created for people to share their opinion of teams?!?!

You will adore and worship your team and its coach unquestionably or you will NOT call yourself a Bearcats fan!!!

This is great! NW fans are what we are, but if you paid attention to the football forums, you'd know that there is plenty of criticism dealt by our own. My post was not meant to be critical of anything he said. If it had been or I wanted to take him to task for his post I would of said something like "Hudgens just scored 31 points and carried our team to a conference win over our closest rival, but we can't win the MIAA in part because he didn't do enough to get layups with his right hand?" But being the objective NW poster that I am, I chose not to go there. ;)

[Taxman]

How dare you have an opinion of a team and then share that opinion in a public forum created for people to share their opinion of teams?!?!

You will adore and worship your team and its coach unquestionably or you will NOT call yourself a Bearcats fan!!!

Northwest Missouri State Basketball. Living rent free in Augie's head since 2015. You love to see it. #culturewins

[Thepeman]

Northwest Missouri State Basketball. Living rent free in Augie's head since 2015. You love to see it. #culturewins

Sounds to me, Mr. Augie better be worried about his team than those of opponents.

[MrAugustana]

Northwest Missouri State Basketball. Living rent free in Augie's head since 2015. You love to see it. #culturewins

Isn't the record between us (at least recently) just 2-3? With both of our wins coming after that 2015 game you're referring to? Am I forgetting a game?

That being said, yes, we do need to get our house in order again. No denying that. But there are other teams currently living in my head that are not NWMSU. I don't think about you guys a ton other than being noticeably surprised that UCM picked you off. But as I commented in the beginning of the year, I was as complimentary of the Bearcats as anyone after the Duke game. McCollum is a good coach. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a D1 job yet, and I won't complain when he does.

[MisterWizard]

Northwest is going to be #1 ranked again come Tuesday. Bellarmine went down Monday night.

[Augie Skyhook]

Northwest Missouri State Basketball. Living rent free in Augie's head since 2015. You love to see it. #culturewins

I'll take Unoriginal Overused Sports-Internet Phrases for $200, Alex.

[Taxman]

I'll take Unoriginal Overused Sports-Internet Phrases for $200, Alex.

That close to home huh.

[Purple Mav Man]

Isn't the record between us (at least recently) just 2-3? With both of our wins coming after that 2015 game you're referring to? Am I forgetting a game?

That being said, yes, we do need to get our house in order again. No denying that. But there are other teams currently living in my head that are not NWMSU. I don't think about you guys a ton other than being noticeably surprised that UCM picked you off. But as I commented in the beginning of the year, I was as complimentary of the Bearcats as anyone after the Duke game. McCollum is a good coach. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a D1 job yet, and I won't complain when he does.

[DapperDan]

The jump from D2 to a Power Five is pretty extreme and virtually unheard of. Think more along the lines of a move to a low major like Sather. Despite the comfort of a dominant program many, probably most, coaches relish the challenge (and the bigger paycheck).

[DapperDan]

Isn't the record between us (at least recently) just 2-3? With both of our wins coming after that 2015 game you're referring to? Am I forgetting a game?

That being said, yes, we do need to get our house in order again. No denying that. But there are other teams currently living in my head that are not NWMSU. I don't think about you guys a ton other than being noticeably surprised that UCM picked you off. But as I commented in the beginning of the year, I was as complimentary of the Bearcats as anyone after the Duke game. McCollum is a good coach. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten a D1 job yet, and I won't complain when he does.

Is the move-up stalled?

[MrAugustana]

Is the move-up stalled?

It's funny, I realized that would be the implication a few seconds after I posted it but didn't feel like jumping back in to edit.

I guess my thought is that even if he gets a D1 gig, there may be a decent likelihood he would end up in a different conference than Augie would.

But I have heard nothing about timelines stalling, just to clarify.

[libertybearcat]

Lots of factors for Ben to consider. Lower level D1's are the most likely suitors for him, but with his pay at NW, I'm not sure the money it that much more. I recall last year some NW fans thinking he was going to get the Nebraska job. D2 coaches hardly ever make the D2 to P5 move. Kim Anderson did mainly due to his connection to Norm Stewart and while KA is an excellent coach, he flamed out making that big of a jump.

If you make the move to a low level D1, are you going into a good situation where the coach moved up or a bad situation. In the good situation and you maintain that success, maybe a little more do you get the credit, or are you benefiting from the situation you were left from the previous coach. Go to a bad situation, how long do you have to turn it around? Rumors were UMKC wanted Ben last year...that place is a dumpster fire, I'd be surprised if anybody can win there.

Mix in NW is his alma mater, Maryville is a great place to raise a family and from all accounts he loves it there...I'd wager it will take a special situation elsewhere for him to leave.

[Randy]

Lots of factors for Ben to consider. Lower level D1's are the most likely suitors for him, but with his pay at NW, I'm not sure the money it that much more. I recall last year some NW fans thinking he was going to get the Nebraska job. D2 coaches hardly ever make the D2 to P5 move. Kim Anderson did mainly due to his connection to Norm Stewart and while KA is an excellent coach, he flamed out making that big of a jump.

If you make the move to a low level D1, are you going into a good situation where the coach moved up or a bad situation. In the good situation and you maintain that success, maybe a little more do you get the credit, or are you benefiting from the situation you were left from the previous coach. Go to a bad situation, how long do you have to turn it around? Rumors were UMKC wanted Ben last year...that place is a dumpster fire, I'd be surprised if anybody can win there.

Mix in NW is his alma mater, Maryville is a great place to raise a family and from all accounts he loves it there...I'd wager it will take a special situation elsewhere for him to leave.

It's up to him. Yes, the first job he would have to take would probably not be much of a pay increase but it's necessary if he wants to make Power 5 money in the future. Brian Kelly is the blue print for going from D2 to Power 5. I'm guessing Central Michigan wasn't a huge pay increase. Cincinnati probably was a nice raise and now he's at Notre Dame.

[Purple Mav Man]

The jump from D2 to a Power Five is pretty extreme and virtually unheard of. Think more along the lines of a move to a low major like Sather. Despite the comfort of a dominant program many, probably most, coaches relish the challenge (and the bigger paycheck).

[MrAugustana]

Actually, I could be mistaken, but I believe I heard back when he was first rumored to be taking the job that the pay increase really wasn't all that significant, if much at all when factoring in some of the fringe benefits at Northern. It was more of an opportunity increase. Or maybe he just didn't like being in Aberdeen anymore. ;)