2025 NSIC transfer portal

[Stanger86]

Yeah it has to do with a change to JUCO rules I believe. I saw it in regards to someone else recently too.

[Mark Emmert's Burner]

If only Parker Fox had gone to Junior College. Seriously these rules have gotten ridiculous. Give me the old days when money hadn’t spoiled everything and you could sign somebody and count on getting four years.

Yeah, the old days when money hadn't spoiled everything! The NCAA landscape was clean-as-a-whistle before these greedy young people wanted to get paid for their Vuori sponsorships!

[Moorhead123]

Yeah, the old days when money hadn't spoiled everything! The NCAA landscape was clean-as-a-whistle before these greedy young people wanted to get paid for their Vuori sponsorships!

No problem with players getting more, but they have to be able to put some guardrails on this craziness. We are on a path of having only 25-50 of the “big schools” that can really compete.

[Purple Mav Man]

No problem with players getting more, but they have to be able to put some guardrails on this craziness. We are on a path of having only 25-50 of the “big schools” that can really compete.

That’s not really all that different either. And yeah, yeah… people will pick out the outliers that made a long run one year out of 20. But it’s always been a game of haves and have nots. The game is just a little different now and the athletes also get a chunk. Not saying it needs to be wide open, but it is for coaches. Big difference is some type of buyout to put something behind the player contract.

[Thunder]

The NCAA and its members repeatedly shot themselves in the foot when they refused to adapt and allow athletes to share in the $$$. There is no reasonable person that can look at the industry that big time college athletics has become and say the athletes should not be compensated for it. When the NCAA refused to adapt to this reality, everything became questioned, and once you start pulling on those threads, where do you stop? Not a single one of us would like to be told you cannot move to a better job for more money. Or that if you do, you have to sit out for a year.

If all of this were truly about education and the collegiate experience the old NCAA rules make sense. But you can’t look at big time college athletics and honestly believe that any more. The world we all live in, following D2 sports, is a whole lot closer to that reality. But once you are forced to change things for the big boys, you can’t justify the different rules for others.

I agree that for most college athletes, especially at the D2 level, it would be a more rewarding experience in the long to stick with one school and develop those lifelong relationships. But, if you have the opportunity to better your lot in life, go for it.

As for those that say college sports is ruined, well I can’t really help you. The best schools have always been the best and the new rules don’t give them any more of an advantage. It’s different, and is prefer to be able to root for a player for 4 years, but at the end of the day I’m going to cheer for my team regardless of the names on the back of the jersey.

[Moorhead123]

The NCAA and its members repeatedly shot themselves in the foot when they refused to adapt and allow athletes to share in the $$$. There is no reasonable person that can look at the industry that big time college athletics has become and say the athletes should not be compensated for it. When the NCAA refused to adapt to this reality, everything became questioned, and once you start pulling on those threads, where do you stop? Not a single one of us would like to be told you cannot move to a better job for more money. Or that if you do, you have to sit out for a year.

If all of this were truly about education and the collegiate experience the old NCAA rules make sense. But you can’t look at big time college athletics and honestly believe that any more. The world we all live in, following D2 sports, is a whole lot closer to that reality. But once you are forced to change things for the big boys, you can’t justify the different rules for others.

I agree that for most college athletes, especially at the D2 level, it would be a more rewarding experience in the long to stick with one school and develop those lifelong relationships. But, if you have the opportunity to better your lot in life, go for it.

As for those that say college sports is ruined, well I can’t really help you. The best schools have always been the best and the new rules don’t give them any more of an advantage. It’s different, and is prefer to be able to root for a player for 4 years, but at the end of the day I’m going to cheer for my team regardless of the names on the back of the jersey.

Certainly a reasonable argument can be made to let players get as much money as they can and to essentially allow the college game to turn into the NBA. But I think it’s pretty clear the new rules greatly benefit top 10% of schools and make it more difficult for other 90% to compete.

[Thunder]

Certainly a reasonable argument can be made to let players get as much money as they can and to essentially allow the college game to turn into the NBA. But I think it’s pretty clear the new rules greatly benefit top 10% of schools and make it more difficult for other 90% to compete.

As opposed to 20-30 years ago when the top 10% had the best advantages and it was difficult for the other 90% to compete. Programs need to adapt or they will fall behind. The top programs will always have the advantage regardless of the rules.

[Moorhead123]

As opposed to 20-30 years ago when the top 10% had the best advantages and it was difficult for the other 90% to compete. Programs need to adapt or they will fall behind. The top programs will always have the advantage regardless of the rules.

Yes, top programs have always had advantages…new rules have increased those advantages.

[MrAugustana]

Long story short, under the current circumstances, I don't expect we'll ever see a 9-seed Florida Atlantic reach the Final Four again, possibly not even the Elite Eight. It's almost certainly going to be only Power 4/5 teams in the later rounds of the tournament like it is this year. Which is fine by the NCAA's point of view, because those schools have the biggest fanbases. Why worry about a mid-major getting into the Elite Eight or Final Four when this year's tournament has the highest viewership in history so far?

I don't think they'll make changes in any way as long as the most valuable/profitable programs are winning each year.

[Stanger86]

Long story short, under the current circumstances, I don't expect we'll ever see a 9-seed Florida Atlantic reach the Final Four again, possibly not even the Elite Eight. It's almost certainly going to be only Power 4/5 teams in the later rounds of the tournament like it is this year. Which is fine by the NCAA's point of view, because those schools have the biggest fanbases. Why worry about a mid-major getting into the Elite Eight or Final Four when this year's tournament has the highest viewership in history so far?

I don't think they'll make changes in any way as long as the most valuable/profitable programs are winning each year.

I tend to agree. Any underdog Cinderella story going forward will be a program like Arkansas ore Ole Miss making the Sweet 16. Arkansas was the worst team in the Sweet 16 field as a 10 seed. The rest were 6 seeds or better.

[Moorhead123]

Long story short, under the current circumstances, I don't expect we'll ever see a 9-seed Florida Atlantic reach the Final Four again, possibly not even the Elite Eight. It's almost certainly going to be only Power 4/5 teams in the later rounds of the tournament like it is this year. Which is fine by the NCAA's point of view, because those schools have the biggest fanbases. Why worry about a mid-major getting into the Elite Eight or Final Four when this year's tournament has the highest viewership in history so far?

I don't think they'll make changes in any way as long as the most valuable/profitable programs are winning each year.

Correct.

Also, watch the transfer portal for mid major teams. My guess is that the mid major annual exodus only grows with the new rules. Feels kinda similar to the past MLB analysis where the small market teams pretend to compete with Dodgers and Yankees…every once in a blue moon it may happen, but in general the small market teams can’t really compete.

[Stanger86]

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[Thunder]

Long story short, under the current circumstances, I don't expect we'll ever see a 9-seed Florida Atlantic reach the Final Four again, possibly not even the Elite Eight. It's almost certainly going to be only Power 4/5 teams in the later rounds of the tournament like it is this year. Which is fine by the NCAA's point of view, because those schools have the biggest fanbases. Why worry about a mid-major getting into the Elite Eight or Final Four when this year's tournament has the highest viewership in history so far?

I don't think they'll make changes in any way as long as the most valuable/profitable programs are winning each year.

Yeah, maybe we'll never see a team from a mid-major conference like the Mountain West or CUSA make the Final Four again like the good ol' days of way back in...2023. I'm not saying it won't be difficult for those teams to make a Final Four, I'm just saying it has ALWAYS been difficult for those teams. I guess I'm just tired of all of the hand wringing and "Sky Is Falling" mentality so many fans and pundits have regarding college sports. My bet would be at some point in the next 5 years we will see a team not from the Power conferences make a run to the Final Four again.

[vikingfaithful]

Long story short, under the current circumstances, I don't expect we'll ever see a 9-seed Florida Atlantic reach the Final Four again, possibly not even the Elite Eight. It's almost certainly going to be only Power 4/5 teams in the later rounds of the tournament like it is this year. Which is fine by the NCAA's point of view, because those schools have the biggest fanbases. Why worry about a mid-major getting into the Elite Eight or Final Four when this year's tournament has the highest viewership in history so far?

I don't think they'll make changes in any way as long as the most valuable/profitable programs are winning each year.

Do you think Augustana's 2016 NC would have happened in todays college BB world? Casey Schilling and Dniel Jansen would have been lured away with NIL $$$ in previous seasons IMO. Perhaps I'm wrong.

[DUPanther]

Yeah, maybe we'll never see a team from a mid-major conference like the Mountain West or CUSA make the Final Four again like the good ol' days of way back in...2023. I'm not saying it won't be difficult for those teams to make a Final Four, I'm just saying it has ALWAYS been difficult for those teams. I guess I'm just tired of all of the hand wringing and "Sky Is Falling" mentality so many fans and pundits have regarding college sports. My bet would be at some point in the next 5 years we will see a team not from the Power conferences make a run to the Final Four again.

I think you're missing the boat if you don't recognize massive changes in college basketball within the last year. 2023 is more comparable to 1995 than it is to 2025 - for 2 reasons:

1. The new transfer rules just took effect last April. The NIL money gave the Power 4 schools a big advantage, but coupled with the new transfer rules where no one has to sit out, it makes anyone below that level a farm team. When San Diego State played in the National Championship game 2 years ago 4 of their top 6 players were seniors. There's zero chance that happens today. 3 of those 4 would be at Power 4 schools making $500k or more in 2025. Their best big man this year is a redshirt freshman 7 footer who averaged 8 pts and 5 rebs - he's already declared for the portal and is currently being courted by Michigan and Kentucky. Any player at a mid major or below who has a good enough year to be all-conference is getting offered to move up. There's just no way you're going to be able to keep a kid for 4 years if they can really play.

2. The stigma that D1 coaches and AD's had for levels below them isn't there any longer. Not too long ago, a coach looked at a D2 kid and turned up their nose, thinking there's no way they could play at the D1 level. Now, they're scouting the D2, D3, and NAIA national tournaments for their next recruit. McCollum and the 4 players he took with him just obliterated what was left of the "D1 only" club. The number of D2 players that have eligibility left that are in the portal looking for a D1 home is huge. Gonna be hard to maintain high level basketball when your best players leave every year.