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UPDATED thru 2/20 games
MASSEY
1. Indianapolis (1)
2. UMSL (3)
3. USI (4)
4. Truman (2)
5. Bellarmine (6)
6. Ferris (5)
7. GVSU (7)
8. Drury (10)
9. Michigan Tech (NR)
10. Findlay (NR)
Dropped out: Walsh (8), Davenport (9)
TalismanRed
1. Indianapolis (1)
2. USI (T3)
3. Bellarmine (2)
4. GVSU (T3)
5. Ferris (5)
6. UMSL (6)
7. Truman (7)
T8. Michigan Tech (9)
T8. Drury (10)
10. Davenport (8)
Dropped out: none
PI
1. Indianapolis (1)
2. UMSL (3)
3. Bellarmine (2)
4. Ferris (4)
5. USI (7)
6. GVSU (5)
7. Truman (6)
8. Findlay (8)
9. Michigan Tech (10)
10. Drury (NR)
Dropped out: Walsh (9)
RPI
1. Indianapolis (1)
2. Truman (2)
3. Bellarmine (3)
4. USI (7)
5. UMSL (4)
6. Ferris (5)
7. GVSU (6)
8. Drury (10)
9. Michigan Tech (NR)
10. Northwood (8)
Dropped out: Rockhurst (9)
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[QUOTE=HoosierDaddy;n485961]Originally posted by HoosierDaddy View PostTruman at #2 is a surprise[/QUOTE
Still wondering
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[QUOTE=HoosierDaddy;n485498]Truman at #2 is a surprise[/QUOTE
Still wondering
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Tonight's ranked losses:
MTU over Davenport
Drury over Truman
And not ranked, but relevant, Lindenwood gives GLVC a bit of breathing room by taking down Rockhurst, who we believe was on the fringe of being ranked.
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Originally posted by Knightmoves View PostDon't understand Mich Tech and Davenport being ahead of Findlay. Findlay has better record and better PI than both of them. If PI doesn't matter, then Walsh should be ahead of all three of them. I think it will sort itself out by season's end. If Findlay were to run the table, they'll finish much higher than 8. I'm not sure why Davenport and Michigan Tech are ahead of South West Baptist and Drury. Of course the rankings don't tell you who 11-15 are, nor how close teams are to each other.
As an illustration as to how close this is, suppose Truman and Drury win the rest of their regular season games, except Drury beats Truman. Even though Truman is currently ranked 2 in the region and Drury is unranked, Drury would have a good case for being ranked ahead of Truman. They would have a better record and a win over Truman. My point here is that there are probably fourteen teams within a single loss or win of being in or out of the tournament. UMSL and Ferris look like they could relatviely easily win the rest of their regulat season games. A team that actually controls its own destiny is USI. If they win out, they would finish the sregular season as No. 1. Personally, I would like to see them go 3-1 with a loss to BU
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Don't understand Mich Tech and Davenport being ahead of Findlay. Findlay has better record and better PI than both of them. If PI doesn't matter, then Walsh should be ahead of all three of them. I think it will sort itself out by season's end. If Findlay were to run the table, they'll finish much higher than 8. I'm not sure why Davenport and Michigan Tech are ahead of South West Baptist and Drury. Of course the rankings don't tell you who 11-15 are, nor how close teams are to each other.
As an illustration as to how close this is, suppose Truman and Drury win the rest of their regular season games, except Drury beats Truman. Even though Truman is currently ranked 2 in the region and Drury is unranked, Drury would have a good case for being ranked ahead of Truman. They would have a better record and a win over Truman. My point here is that there are probably fourteen teams within a single loss or win of being in or out of the tournament. UMSL and Ferris look like they could relatviely easily win the rest of their regulat season games. A team that actually controls its own destiny is USI. If they win out, they would finish the sregular season as No. 1. Personally, I would like to see them go 3-1 with a loss to BU
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Games left for each team:
1. UIndy - at Maryville (5-20), at Missouri S&T (5-18), McKendree (12-13), at #7 Southern Indiana (19-5)
2. Truman - at Drury (17-7), SW Baptist (18-7), at Maryville (5-20), at Missouri S&T (5-18)
3. Bellarmine - at Missouri S&T (5-18), at Maryville (5-20), #7 Southern Indiana (19-5), McKendree (12-13)
4. Ferris State - at Purdue Northwest (8-18), at WI Parkside (10-15), Lake Superior (11-14)
5. Grand Valley - at N Michigan (11-14), at #8 Michigan Tech (17-8), #9 Davenport (20-8)
6. Missouri-St. Louis - William Jewell (9-15), Rockhurst (15-9), Lewis (13-11), IL Springfield (14-11)
7. Southern Indiana - at IL Springfield (14-11), Lewis (13-11), at #3 Bellarmine (17-6), #1 Indianapolis (19-5)
8. Michigan Tech - #9 Davenport (20-8), #5 Grand Valley (20-5), at N Michigan (11-14)
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9. Davenport - at #8 Michigan Tech (17-8), at N Michigan (11-14), at #5 Grand Valley (20-5)
10. Findlay - at Lake Erie (14-11), at Cedarville (16-8), Hillsdale (16-8)
Biggest risk/reward for Southern Indiana and Davenport. This week's Davenport/Michigan Tech game will be huge.
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Originally posted by TSU_Mike59 View PostMeanwhile, on the women's side:
1. Drury (25-0 overall, 20-0 regional)
2. Ashland (25-0, 24-0)
3. Grand Valley (22-2, 21-2)
4. Walsh (22-2, 22-2)
5. Kentucky Wesleyan (20-1, 20-1)
6. Southern Indiana (16-6, 15-6)
7. Ferris State (17-6, 17-6)
8. Lewis (15-9, 15-9)
9. Lindenwood (14-8, 14-6)
10. Truman (16-6, 16-6)
Can't imagine that the top five aren't locks at this point. Hard to see any teams not in the top ten winning their conference tournament & stealing a bid.
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Meanwhile, on the women's side:
1. Drury (25-0 overall, 20-0 regional)
2. Ashland (25-0, 24-0)
3. Grand Valley (22-2, 21-2)
4. Walsh (22-2, 22-2)
5. Kentucky Wesleyan (20-1, 20-1)
6. Southern Indiana (16-6, 15-6)
7. Ferris State (17-6, 17-6)
8. Lewis (15-9, 15-9)
9. Lindenwood (14-8, 14-6)
10. Truman (16-6, 16-6)
Can't imagine that the top five aren't locks at this point. Hard to see any teams not in the top ten winning their conference tournament & stealing a bid.
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Originally posted by HoosierDaddy View PostTruman at #2 is a surprise
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So the next question becomes how many games can each team in the top 7 afford to lose before falling out?
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Rank School Overall DII Record In-Region Record 1 UIndy 18-5 17-5 2 Truman 17-7 17-7 3 Bellarmine 16-6 16-6 4 Ferris State 20-5 17-5 5 Grand Valley State 18-5 18-5 6 Missouri-St. Louis 15-5 15-5 7 Southern Indiana 18-5 18-5 8 Michigan Tech 15-8 13-8 9 Davenport 16-8 15-8 10 Findlay 16-6 15-6
Here it is. I guess their opinion is as good as any. UMSL is kind of underated IMO. Michigan Tech is the first team out, since there has to be a GMAC team. It is all going to change by bid time.
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As far as ultimate No. 1 and host seeding, obviously Indy right now has the upper hand. I do believe that if one of BU, USI, TSU or UMSL were to win out including winning the GLVC tourney, that team would get it. I think Ferris or GVSU need to win out and not have any of the above GLVC teams do the same plus Indy would need to lose 2 more times.
Out of the GLVC, UMSL probably has the easiest remaining regular season with all 4 games at home where they are undefeated. Rockhurst, Lewis and UIS are no pushovers, especially with Rockhurst still having some incentive for the postseason but I don't see UMSL losing any of them. BU and Indy have nearly identical schedules with the big exception being BU gets USI at home and Indy has to play at USI. Other than the USI game for both of them, they should not have any other problems with their remaining schedule. TSU has Drury on the road and SW Baptist at home. Interesting enough Indy BU and TSU all have S&T and Maryville on the road. USI by far has the toughest remaining schedule (@UIS, Lewis, @BU, Indy) but if they would win them all would definitely improve their position on all of the rating systems. Of course, the GLVC tourney is a total toss up. Doesn't matter who is 1 and who is 8, they will all have a shot. The GLVC tourney will be much more difficult than the Regional.
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