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  • #76
    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    She kept your state becoming like Flori-duh and being virus epicenter.

    And yes there is Fascism in Meatchicken when those loons stormed the state capitol with weapons. They should have all been tossed in jail for intimidation.
    No laws were broken. No one was harmed. Heck no trash was even left behind. PEACEFUL protests. As for our Governor, uh, you're totally off base. Detroit got hammered early on. Now that things are pretty much under control, she continues with her one person rule. And she still blows off the deaths in the nursing homes. Florida is far from an epicenter, but that has NOTHING to do with MI's current status and the Guv's current edicts.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Redwing View Post

      No laws were broken. No one was harmed. Heck no trash was even left behind. PEACEFUL protests. As for our Governor, uh, you're totally off base. Detroit got hammered early on. Now that things are pretty much under control, she continues with her one person rule. And she still blows off the deaths in the nursing homes. Florida is far from an epicenter, but that has NOTHING to do with MI's current status and the Guv's current edicts.
      She didn't get ripped on enough when she said it was illegal to open up vacation homes but her husband went Up North to open up theirs.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Redwing View Post

        No laws were broken. No one was harmed. Heck no trash was even left behind. PEACEFUL protests. As for our Governor, uh, you're totally off base. Detroit got hammered early on. Now that things are pretty much under control, she continues with her one person rule. And she still blows off the deaths in the nursing homes. Florida is far from an epicenter, but that has NOTHING to do with MI's current status and the Guv's current edicts.
        They tried to intimidate the state gubmint because they wanted a haircut and go to Applebee’s.

        So what if black, Hispanic and LGBT protestors showed up the same wAy with guns and did exactly the same thing those conservative white men did...would you support it? No you would not. You would lose your mind.

        Also the cops did not wear a shred of riot gear. They would be in it if minorities and gays protested in that manner.

        Kneeling during the anthem was peaceful protest. Yet you can’t even accept that. How do you want minorities and gays to protest that would be acceptable and that would get you to go against the Republicans and support their causes?

        The fact is people like you don’t want any minorities or the gays to protest anything. You want us to be compliant and obey “you people” our conservative overlords.
        Last edited by IUPNation; 08-31-2020, 03:57 PM.

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        • #79
          I'm now hearing more and more Hispanics are telling people (and the media) not to include them in any way as a part or advocates of the BLM movement.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

            They tried to intimidate the state gubmint because they wanted a haircut and go to Applebee’s.

            So what if black, Hispanic and LGBT protestors showed up the same wAy with guns and did exactly the same thing those conservative white men did...would you support it? No you would not. You would lose your mind.

            Also the cops did not wear a shred of riot gear. They would be in it if minorities and gays protested in that manner.

            Kneeling during the anthem was peaceful protest. Yet you can’t even accept that. How do you want minorities and gays to protest that would be acceptable and that would get you to go against the Republicans and support their causes?

            The fact is people like you don’t want any minorities or the gays to protest anything. You want us to be compliant and obey “you people” our conservative overlords.
            Wow, glad you know me so well. Stereo typing? Or worse? Not sure I should even respond, but you have no idea as to my take on the above. And, FWIW, this isn't the place to discuss it. And at least let's address the topic... not go after an individual.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Redwing View Post

              Wow, glad you know me so well. Stereo typing? Or worse? Not sure I should even respond, but you have no idea as to my take on the above. And, FWIW, this isn't the place to discuss it. And at least let's address the topic... not go after an individual.
              Your deflection speaks volumes to me.

              If conservative "Real Americans" lose their minds when black men kneel during an anthem to peacefully protest police brutality then I really can't see the support of them showing up in Lansing with AR15, screaming their heads off, waving flags, and "peacefully" pushing their way into the building. In fact, the whole city would probably go on lock down and Cheeto's wig would go sideways.

              So please answer the question and no Fox News style whataboutism.. If non white conservative groups did the exact same thing, showed up armed, pushed their way into the building and tried to intimidate the politicians to get their way...all done without rioting or looting...would you support it like you did when those conservative white men did it and the cops just stood there without riot gear and just let them do what they wanted.

              I'm sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable but imagine how uncomfortable conservatives makes the lives of minorities and the LGBT community on a daily basis. People are exhausted having to fight the same damn battles for their lives year after year decade after decade...when does this nonsense stop? We are all Americans...why do we all have to be the same way?
              Last edited by IUPNation; 09-01-2020, 07:08 AM.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                Your deflection speaks volumes to me.

                If conservative "Real Americans" lose their minds when black men kneel during an anthem to peacefully protest police brutality then I really can't see the support of them showing up in Lansing with AR15, screaming their heads off, waving flags, and "peacefully" pushing their way into the building. In fact, the whole city would probably go on lock down and Cheeto's wig would go sideways.

                So please answer the question and no Fox News style whataboutism.. If non white conservative groups did the exact same thing, showed up armed, pushed their way into the building and tried to intimidate the politicians to get their way...all done without rioting or looting...would you support it like you did when those conservative white men did it and the cops just stood there without riot gear and just let them do what they wanted.

                I'm sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable but imagine how uncomfortable conservatives makes the lives of minorities and the LGBT community on a daily basis. People are exhausted having to fight the same damn battles for their lives year after year decade after decade...when does this nonsense stop? We are all Americans...why do we all have to be the same way?
                Never supported that. Again, making unfounded assumptions on your part. And for being the same way. Huh? Look in the mirror. I'm out on this. Ask away, accuse away, etc. I'm out. And again, attack the individual, not topic.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Redwing View Post

                  Never supported that. Again, making unfounded assumptions on your part. And for being the same way. Huh? Look in the mirror. I'm out on this. Ask away, accuse away, etc. I'm out. And again, attack the individual, not topic.
                  I don't understand what you are saying when you say you "never supported that". Can you please clarify what you aren't supporting because I can't tell what you mean.

                  You are not under attack. You were super quick to defend the fascists who stormed the state house in Lansing with their guns by saying they didn't hurt anyone and left no trash behind. All I asked is you would be as supportive of minorities and gays doing the same thing as they did...leaving no trash behind and not hurting anyone. Would you be comfortable with all groups storming gubmint buildings with guns to get their way? Or are you saying you didn't like the fact they showed up with guns and pushed their way in ton intimidate the legislatures trying to conduct state business? That would be understandable by any reasonable person.

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                  • #84
                    Please keep in mind that only a percentage of the LGBTQ community are supportive and aligning with the BLM movement. So, they can't be automatically lumped in as a group in these types of discussions.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
                      Please keep in mind that only a percentage of the LGBTQ community are supportive and aligning with the BLM movement. So, they can't be automatically lumped in as a group in these types of discussions.
                      And you know this how? I’m LGBT and I support BLM because All Lives Matter is an empty cliche.

                      I don’t support the violence from anyone but constantly reminding the conservative elite of the wrong doing I sure do support.

                      There was no mention of us not supporting BLM at the last Gay Meeting. :-)


                      Last edited by IUPNation; 09-01-2020, 10:20 AM.

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                      • #86
                        I'm just here to say: The NBA players did not boycott the playoffs, they went on strike (a wildcat strike nonetheless, which i think is one of the few terms in the political lexicon that accurately describes how cool the thing it's describing is). A boycott involves withholding money and a strike involves withholding labor. I do get why they didn't come out and say "We are on strike, against the wishes of union leadership and the terms of our contract with the NBA" though.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
                          Please keep in mind that only a percentage of the LGBTQ community are supportive and aligning with the BLM movement. So, they can't be automatically lumped in as a group in these types of discussions.
                          Lol, any amount of them supporting it would be only a percentage. Even if it was 100%, it's still only a percentage. Did you mean a small percentage? You keep making all of these claims with nothing to back them up at all. It's like when Trump says "people are saying..."...but those people are actually just the idiotic "thoughts" he has.

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                          • #88
                            Can we remember this is the general forums and not the Off Topic Forums please? Last night the President's Trophy winner (if given this season) was ousted from the NHL playoffs and the Av's stayed alive. Tonight the Flyers and Canucks will try to stay alive too.

                            *shameless attempt to get this back onto sports in the sports section of the forums*

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