Video: Should Division II Overhaul the Playoff System? - with Mike Racy

[KleShreen]

Yes give those F Keys a rest.

I just don’t get it that we need to schedule GV to get a home playoff game but GV can schedule inferior Region 1 opponents and still get the home playoff game. Really makes no sense but I guess it’s rules for thee but not for me.

lmao. Nation. What are you talking about? GV in 2022 played two playoff teams in non-conference, both from outside SR1, including the national runner-up (and then played two other playoff teams in conference play). In 2021, GV played a playoff team in non-conference, not from SR1. In 2023, GV is playing three playoff teams in non-conference, two from outside SR1, including the national runner-up. Like why are you just blatantly ignoring everything lol.

The only PSAC non-conference win over an eventual playoff team since 2011 has been Cal PA beating Virginia State in 2014. That's it. Out of all the PSAC teams, that's the only one to win a non-conference game against an eventual playoff team.

I get it. You don't want to admit when you are wrong. You never have. And you never will. But just blatantly ignoring things is a weird track to take lol.

[Ram040506]

So with Bagent gone (and didn't the OC take a job somewhere else?) do you think Shep is gonna focus on defense and running the ball more, or are they sticking with airing it out?

I think and hope it gets back to being more balanced. Our running game should be a little more physical as the OL/RB will have the most experience on offense. I was pounding the table late in the season that the Rams needed to lean on the run game as the playoffs approached. They seemed to do that in the regional portion of the playoffs as Ronnie Brown was getting between 20-25 touches each game and went for over 200 yds in 2 of the 3 regional playoff games. I'll go to my grave thinking the Rams could have been in that Mines game if they just committed to running the ball. Brown had 177 yds on 17 carries in that game and it wasn't because of the dogs being called off when it was out of hand in the 2nd half. Their pass rush was going to be an issue, and out of ignorance the Rams just decided well this is WHAT WE DO. Just silly, run the ball get them on their heels then let Bagent with some time try and cook. But it didn't happen and Mines wiped the floor with them.

With that said, the defense is going to be better. I think 9 starters return, with a couple that were lost preseason on the DL that will be huge for size/depth. If they find the QB, they should be right there again for the region, with hopefully a better showing at that point as well.

Edit: Ok Brown had a 75 yd run late in the 4th quarter when the dogs were clearly called off against Mines... I take that part back. But they were still moderately successful running the ball at least and should have leaned on it.

[IUPNation]

The OC was there for one season, so his departure is no big deal. I think Shepherd will at least skew a bit more towards the running game. And it does seem like they have gotten a few more solid solid defensive players in this class. So, it will be interesting to see how it all washes out. I could see them taking a step back for a season. Of course, I could also see them having another great year. Personally, I would rather see them go back to running the ball more and having a stronger defense.

You’ll be fine. If you aren’t hosting The State Game next season I’ll be shocked.

[Ram Tough]

So with Bagent gone (and didn't the OC take a job somewhere else?) do you think Shep is gonna focus on defense and running the ball more, or are they sticking with airing it out?

The OC was there for one season, so his departure is no big deal. I think Shepherd will at least skew a bit more towards the running game. And it does seem like they have gotten a few more solid solid defensive players in this class. So, it will be interesting to see how it all washes out. I could see them taking a step back for a season. Of course, I could also see them having another great year. Personally, I would rather see them go back to running the ball more and having a stronger defense.

[IUPNation]

lol. Ok. Well I'm not gonna keep telling you the same obvious things time after time. So I'm finished here.

Yes give those F Keys a rest.

I just don’t get it that we need to schedule GV to get a home playoff game but GV can schedule inferior Region 1 opponents and still get the home playoff game. Really makes no sense but I guess it’s rules for thee but not for me.

[IUPNation]

I'm sure those discussions are happening now. With SR1 admins working up a big tree of excuses to keep their unearned gravy train going.

So we can’t discuss it like an adult. Just more sneering and insults.

Got it.

[KleShreen]

So you basically want your cake and eat it too.

You want to claim we suck but then be able to still say you had a tough schedule because your spread sheet numbers got a bump because of our record within region 1…so it’s a win/win for you right?

So predictable.

SOS in D2 has been a joke since regionalization has begun and it’s been an issue within Region 1 as well. The spread sheet numbers do not tell the real story.

lol. Ok. Well I'm not gonna keep telling you the same obvious things time after time. So I'm finished here.

[Predatory Primates]

So will there be discussions like the one that started this thread about playoff reform with commissioners from the “lesser” conferences? You would think everyone has to be in the discussion in order to come to a consensus on how to make the process better…

I'm sure those discussions are happening now. With SR1 admins working up a big tree of excuses to keep their unearned gravy train going.

[IUPNation]

So again, as I said, and you are admitting yet again, you only care about the region, and don't care about competing for a national title. If you did, the PSAC schools would schedule national competition instead of beating up on the same bad teams in SR1. That's fine. If that's how you want to operate, and your ceiling should be winning the region, then that's fine. You do you. But don't come on here complaining why you aren't hosting semifinal games and are looked at as lesser-than, then.

Nobody is scared of going to Pennsylvania. You think Mines and Pueblo will play at GVSU, but not play at.....IUP? Come on. The schools with a pulse from the other regions will gladly come to your field and take that win to enhance their SOS when IUP or SRU or Shepherd or whoever else inevitably finishes 9-2/10-1. But the fact of the matter is that, as you've said multiple times now, your schools only care about beating teams in your region, so they don't want to take the risk of playing any opponent from outside the region and taking the loss, jeopardizing their playoff possibility. You'd rather make sure you have a leg up over the other teams in your region rather than making sure you have a leg-up on the possibility of hosting a semifinal game.

So you basically want your cake and eat it too.

You want to claim we suck but then be able to still say you had a tough schedule because your spread sheet numbers got a bump because of our record within region 1…so it’s a win/win for you right?

So predictable.

SOS in D2 has been a joke since regionalization has begun and it’s been an issue within Region 1 as well. The spread sheet numbers do not tell the real story.

[IUPNation]

So will there be discussions like the one that started this thread about playoff reform with commissioners from the “lesser” conferences? You would think everyone has to be in the discussion in order to come to a consensus on how to make the process better…

[IUPNation]

Brandon, he's right. I've kept quiet about it, but there have been multiple posts here with political references. And IIRC, every one was slanted in the same direction..

He literally started it first by going political to my comment of Midwestern foosball fans being entitled to getting everything their way in the playoffs.

Post #21.

Reading is fundamental.

Bye.

[IUPNation]

So again, as I said, and you are admitting yet again, you only care about the region, and don't care about competing for a national title. If you did, the PSAC schools would schedule national competition instead of beating up on the same bad teams in SR1. That's fine. If that's how you want to operate, and your ceiling should be winning the region, then that's fine. You do you. But don't come on here complaining why you aren't hosting semifinal games and are looked at as lesser-than, then.

Nobody is scared of going to Pennsylvania. You think Mines and Pueblo will play at GVSU, but not play at.....IUP? Come on. The schools with a pulse from the other regions will gladly come to your field and take that win to enhance their SOS when IUP or SRU or Shepherd or whoever else inevitably finishes 9-2/10-1. But the fact of the matter is that, as you've said multiple times now, your schools only care about beating teams in your region, so they don't want to take the risk of playing any opponent from outside the region and taking the loss, jeopardizing their playoff possibility. You'd rather make sure you have a leg up over the other teams in your region rather than making sure you have a leg-up on the possibility of hosting a semifinal game.

Ok Hoggie.

[Redwing]

So IUP can take shots at Fox News and Trump in this same thread but when I do it I'm told to go to another forum? Seems fair... funny part is I'm an independent voter who was just giving the other side.

For future reference I guess it's good to know what views are tolerated and accepted.

Brandon, he's right. I've kept quiet about it, but there have been multiple posts here with political references. And IIRC, every one was slanted in the same direction..

[DawgUp]

So with Bagent gone (and didn't the OC take a job somewhere else?) do you think Shep is gonna focus on defense and running the ball more, or are they sticking with airing it out?

[Ram Tough]

There's been some talk about Shepherd maybe getting there financially. Well, I know that they're sure trying. But I think one of Shepherd's issues the past two years in the semifinals is how the team was made up. There was a huge focus to bring in more offensive weapons with Bagent there. And while I can't really blame them, I feel like the teams in 2010, 2015 and 2016 were better because there was more of a focus on defense. And none of those three teams were blown out in the semis, and the 2015 team won their semi game. The last two years, Shepherd just had their teeth kicked in. I wouldn't trade Ernie McCook for anyone. He's done a great job since taking over in 2018. But there is a reason that Monte Cater was elected to the college football Hall of Fame.