Video: Should Division II Overhaul the Playoff System? - with Mike Racy

[GorillaTeacher]

Fully funded is a moving target. Does Pitt the equivalent of 36 out of state tuition cost, likely, no. But there are virtually no students on campus charged out of state tuition, but we have hundreds of students from all over the world. There is a spreadsheet floating around here or on TK that has it broken down. I haven’t been able to dig it up yet, though.

[Predatory Primates]

...and they still can't win the MIAA...nor will they ever.

No team from SR1 could either, yet here you are fighting for them to get 25%of the po slots.

[Predatory Primates]

To be clear, if they are trying to get there, I'm all for them staying, but if they never plan to get there, I can't understand why they would choose to be in D2. For some, maybe it's the other sports that keep them in D2? Maybe if the ncaa would let them play down in football it would help.

[IUPNation]

2021 they took second.

Which is not first.

[IUPNation]

It's implicit in their actions. You're not sanctioned by the NCAA to not allow the full 36, the only other reason is that you chose not to do what it takes to offer the full equivalencies.

It's Pitt State fully funded? Can you prove it?

[IUPNation]

It's just funny to see the irony in this conversation lol. Schools which choose not to and/or can't fund scholarships to the maximum allotted amount want other schools to spend MORE money to move UP, rather than those people realizing there's a much easier solution to their issue by just moving down, which saves them even more money lol.

Nobody asked anyone to move up . We just said to stop whining.

[IUPNation]

They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.

...but if you are only at 30...then the same can be said for you too.

If you don't know, you can't claim.

[IUPNation]

I didn't say they were, and honestly don't know if they are. I know they work hard to fund raise (sometimes too hard in that they have alienated the locals,, etc.. in search of a buck) and have at times been nationally competitive.

The difference is, I'm not in here fighting to continue with a status quo that rewards teams for mediocrity.

You are literally saying they are fully funded.

Giving teams a playoff bid that didn't win their conference title is rewarding mediocrity as well.

This is who should have been in the playoffs this year......top seeded team gets the first week bye and that would have been either GV or Pitt State. These were your conference champions and shame on the Northern Sun for not having a title game. I only picked Minnesota State because they won the head to head with Bemidji.

Ashland - 9
Fake Notre Dame - 10
Assumption - 14
IUP -7
Fayetteville State - 15
West Florida -5
Newberry - 11
Benedict - 12
Ouachita Baptist - 8
Grand Valley - 1
Indianapolis -13
Pittsburg(h) State - 2
Angelo State - 4
Minnesota State - 6
Colorado Mines -3

First Round
Backet One
Pitt vs Fayetteville State
IUP vs Fake Notre Dame

Bracket Two
Colorado Mines vs Assumption
Minnesota State vs Newberry

Backet Three
Angelo State vs Indianpolis
West Florida vs Benedict

Bracket Four - Winner Plays Grand Valley
Ouachita Baptist
Ashland

Bracket one and two will face off and three and four will do the same until they get down to two teams. Easy peasy.

So I'm not fighting for the status quo. I'm just fighting against the Midwestern attempt to make sure they get the majority of bids in a "fixed" playoff system while discriminating against conferences for nothing more than not having as much money.

[Predatory Primates]

Is the PSAC one of those conferences that does not allow teams to fully fund like the RMAC used to be?

I honestly don't know and am asking.

[GorillaTeacher]

...and they still can't win the MIAA...nor will they ever.

2021 they took second.

[GorillaTeacher]

So you are saying IUP has come out publicly in saying they choose to not to fully fund?

It's implicit in their actions. You're not sanctioned by the NCAA to not allow the full 36, the only other reason is that you chose not to do what it takes to offer the full equivalencies.

[KleShreen]

They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.

It's just funny to see the irony in this conversation lol. Schools which choose not to and/or can't fund scholarships to the maximum allotted amount want other schools to spend MORE money to move UP, rather than those people realizing there's a much easier solution to their issue by just moving down, which saves them even more money lol.

[Predatory Primates]

So you are saying IUP has come out publicly in saying they choose to not to fully fund?

They choose to play in a division they can't fund. That's a fact.

[IUPNation]

SR1 teams have had a huge fund raising advantage for a long time with teams getting free rides to the semis and have not capitalized on it. Do you really think it was easier for UNK to go from 18 schollies to near full funding while getting their arses stomped every week in the MIAA than for IUP to do it while skipping into the playoffs every year?

...and they still can't win the MIAA...nor will they ever.

[Predatory Primates]

Playoff bids are for the ENTITLED, if they weren't every school would be awarded a birth. Not everyone gets to play for championships.They all have the same opportunity to fund raise and charge fees like every other school. They CHOSE not to.

It's berth, and nation has no idea what entitled means.

If the state (KS) who was a laughing stock for starving academics and nearly going broke in an attempt to bring back trickle down, is doing a better job with collegiate funding than your state, you probably need to be taking a serious look at what's really going on.