Regional Rankings

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: Regional Rankings

I think if one of those Ohio SR1 teams played Kentucky State, it would count as an in-region game for them. But, as stated before, I'm not expert on this stuff.

Speaking of Kentucky State, they're still winless. We have another likely SOS drain the next two years in Wayne State. I'd like to see us start playing some of the better Ohio GMAC schools (Finlay, Ohio Dominican, Tiffin) in the future. But knowing our AD, we'll see Youngstown State back on the schedule before those teams.

It's harder than you think in most cases. Takes two to tango. SRU is historically strong. Some other strong teams prefer to play a freebie. Other strong teams always want that non-conference game at home.

Good teams don't take deals in most cases unless they are a home-and-home.

You won't see IUP play an Ashland-type series again for a long time. It's not worth giving up a home game (revenue).

On top of all that so many are choosing to just play 10 games instead of 11 games ... making it even harder.

[IUP24]

It's harder than you think in most cases. Takes two to tango. SRU is historically strong. Some other strong teams prefer to play a freebie. Other strong teams always want that non-conference game at home.

Good teams don't take deals in most cases unless they are a home-and-home.

You won't see IUP play an Ashland-type series again for a long time. It's not worth giving up a home game (revenue).

On top of all that so many are choosing to just play 10 games instead of 11 games ... making it even harder.

[Dozsa2]

Re: Regional Rankings

It's harder than you think in most cases. Takes two to tango. SRU is historically strong. Some other strong teams prefer to play a freebie. Other strong teams always want that non-conference game at home.

Good teams don't take deals in most cases unless they are a home-and-home.

You won't see IUP play an Ashland-type series again for a long time. It's not worth giving up a home game (revenue).

On top of all that so many are choosing to just play 10 games instead of 11 games ... making it even harder.

All very good points. Looking back, opening with KSU was a blessing. Had we started with any decent Division II opponent, we would have taken an 0-2 record to Millersville.

If the only option is a SOS drain, that's better than going the FCS route, IMO. When I played, we were opening with teams like Florida Atlantic (who we beat :wink:), Eastern Kentucky and Youngstown State. Those were amazing experiences and were no doubt good paydays for the athletic department, but man, physically, we paid the price.

[CHIP72]

Re: Regional Rankings

I'm pretty sure it does not. The Pennsylvania-based teams can play any out-of-region team in a bordering state - Ohio, West Virginia, or Maryland (or Delaware, New Jersey, or New York) - and have it count as an in-region game, but games against out-of-region teams from states that do not border Pennsylvania do not count in a team's regional record.

[WarriorVoice]

Re: Regional Rankings

West Chester and Kutztown deserve more chatter than they've received in this thread. Either team is a tough opponent, and they both have the conference's best chance at being regional playoff teams...Why no love??

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Re: Regional Rankings

West Chester and Kutztown deserve more chatter than they've received in this thread. Either team is a tough opponent, and they both have the conference's best chance at being regional playoff teams...Why no love??

Fair question. I think the board is a little down on WCU after the State Game smackdown a year ago and the big loss to IUP in the playoffs ... not sure many people think real highly of that undefeated record to this point. A very average Shippensburg is probably their signature win to this point and both the Ship and Bloom wins were very close (one TD and one FG).

A team has to play its schedule. Would an IUP, Shepherd or Cal also be undefeated having played WCU's schedule to this point ... yes.

Their time is coming to prove everybody wrong.


As for Kutztown, they never get talked about on here (football or basketball) -- likely for the simple reason they don't have any (or very, very few) posters.

[WarriorVoice]

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"Would an IUP, Shepherd or Cal also be undefeated having played WCU's schedule to this point ... yes."

How can you be so sure? IUP couldn't handle it's own business!! I don't remember you predicting THOSE losses...

[IUP412]

Re: Regional Rankings

IUP's game against Ashland counts as both a D2 game and a SR1 game, since Ohio (where Ashland is) borders PA (where IUP is).

Slippery Rock's game against Kentucky St is a D2 game, but not a SR1 game.

New Haven's game against FCS Bryant doesn't count in their D2 W/L record, but it counts in their D2 opponents' record when calculating OWP.

If that's how it works IUP should open up next year at JMU. Make money, loss doesn't hurt and JMU possible 11 win team....just sayin

[IUP412]

Re: Regional Rankings

It's harder than you think in most cases. Takes two to tango. SRU is historically strong. Some other strong teams prefer to play a freebie. Other strong teams always want that non-conference game at home.

Good teams don't take deals in most cases unless they are a home-and-home.

You won't see IUP play an Ashland-type series again for a long time. It's not worth giving up a home game (revenue).

On top of all that so many are choosing to just play 10 games instead of 11 games ... making it even harder.

True on IUP part. Home softie would be my guess. No road game or home and home battle just not worth it for sure

[IUP412]

Re: Regional Rankings

West Chester and Kutztown deserve more chatter than they've received in this thread. Either team is a tough opponent, and they both have the conference's best chance at being regional playoff teams...Why no love??

West Chester has beaten NOBODY, enough said. KUTZ almost lost to one of the worst teams in the Region (ESU) there u go....

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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"Would an IUP, Shepherd or Cal also be undefeated having played WCU's schedule to this point ... yes."

How can you be so sure? IUP couldn't handle it's own business!! I don't remember you predicting THOSE losses...

You really think Bloom would beat IUP? Come on.

[IUP412]

Re: Regional Rankings

"Would an IUP, Shepherd or Cal also be undefeated having played WCU's schedule to this point ... yes."

How can you be so sure? IUP couldn't handle it's own business!! I don't remember you predicting THOSE losses...

Doubt WCU Wins at Ashland, IUP drums Bentley as WCU did, enough said....

[Horror Child]

Re: Regional Rankings

Unless something has changed, it's a state that borders your state, not your region's states.

The worksheet shows Slippery Rock is 7-1 in D2, 6-1 in region.

[Horror Child]

Re: Regional Rankings

West Chester and Kutztown deserve more chatter than they've received in this thread. Either team is a tough opponent, and they both have the conference's best chance at being regional playoff teams...Why no love??

For West Chester, it's because they've played a HORRIBLE schedule. How else could they have won last week with two redshirt freshman quarterbacks if they weren't playing Cheyney.

[WarriorVoice]

Re: Regional Rankings

For West Chester, it's because they've played a HORRIBLE schedule. How else could they have won last week with two redshirt freshman quarterbacks if they weren't playing Cheyney.

it's about winning, and so far they've done nothing but...