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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
Mostly good PR. The school that likely had the most to do with the decline of CHEYNEY, through rapid growth and expansion of curriculum, manages to save an HBCU of some historical significance. Could actually turn it into academic center focused on the history of race relations in the country. The campus exists, use largely WCU faculty and establish endowment from people who claim to care about such things. It's put up or shut up time for the progressive elite.
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Originally posted by Wcball00 View Post
The story already fails to mention the fact that WCU has been doing all of Cheyney's HR and maintenance work for FREE.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's actually a good model. No reason to have 14 independent HR offices when most employees are on the same 2 or 3 CBAs. Each state park doesn't have its own HR office.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
The next likely consolidation in the interests of economy would be MANSFIELD and LHU with a combined enrollment of a bit over 5000. If these two mergers were done PASSHE would have 12 members and neither of those would effect the East-West football balance. Beyond that all others have an enrollment of 5000+ with the exception of CLARION at 4000-. Then it would be up to the individual institutions to fend for themselves with a combination of state funds and endowment/fund raising.
I think the state can and should figure out a way to consolidate back-end administrative functions like HR and outsource superficial ones like groundskeeping. This is what the state parks and state forests do.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Possibly - the challenge is that enrollments for those schools is lower because population in that region is lower and if you take out one of those two schools you're creating a post-secondary education desert. We don't have enough two-year schools and true community colleges outside of southeastern PA to pick up the slack for a dropped four-year school.
I think the state can and should figure out a way to consolidate back-end administrative functions like HR and outsource superficial ones like groundskeeping. This is what the state parks and state forests do.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Possibly - the challenge is that enrollments for those schools is lower because population in that region is lower and if you take out one of those two schools you're creating a post-secondary education desert. We don't have enough two-year schools and true community colleges outside of southeastern PA to pick up the slack for a dropped four-year school.
I think the state can and should figure out a way to consolidate back-end administrative functions like HR and outsource superficial ones like groundskeeping. This is what the state parks and state forests do.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
But how can you justify two PASSHE schools in the four county (Clinton, Tioga, Potter, Lycoming) north central region with 214,787 people as opposed to one school in the four county (Washington, Greene, Fayette, Westmoreland) southwest corner with 741,263 ? Seems odd that both schools were placed there to begin with although I believe the LOCK HAVEN area once had some industry. Really don't see how small savings on consolidated services answers that question.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
No school was placed anywhere. They each started as private schools purchased by the state 100 years ago so geography be damned.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
It had everything to do with geography. The state created 12 Normal School Districts so that a school in each district could become a normal school. Clarion and Cheyney came in after that to make 14. The idea was that every person in PA would have access to a normal school.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
But how can you justify two PASSHE schools in the four county (Clinton, Tioga, Potter, Lycoming) north central region with 214,787 people as opposed to one school in the four county (Washington, Greene, Fayette, Westmoreland) southwest corner with 741,263 ? Seems odd that both schools were placed there to begin with although I believe the LOCK HAVEN area once had some industry. Really don't see how small savings on consolidated services answers that question.
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Originally posted by Bart View Post
Back in the day, it was about geography. Students traveled to these schools by train or horse and buggy. It wasn't about the population of the areas, but about access to an education. The 4 county north central region covers 4360 square acres, while the southwest corner counties mentioned covers 3273 acres. That's a lot of mileage to cover when your walking to school in deep snow pulling a goat.
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One thing I've noticed about Cheyney is they do a poor job marketing the university on their web page. I know for me helping my daughter with narrowing her college choices for next fall we go through the school's website to learn information about the school and get an idea of how well the campus looks especially the dorms. I found 0 images of the dorms at Cheyney even though they've renovated an historic building to be a dorm as well as the apartments they constructed recently on campus. Those are huge selling points to kids who may not want the traditional dorm setting all 4 years but without pictures who's making a visit up Rt 1.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Yes but I believe that was after each school was founded. I believe the districts were drawn with these schools in mind rather than population. I could be wrong but that's how I remember it. My only source is out on loan.
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