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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Borisenko and Leander going in to IUP HOF.
    Also standout IUP TE Paul Kovell as well. Very good player. Was in the 1990 national title game.

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  • IUP CRIMSON HAWKS
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
    If Aliucci was exonerated of all charges I think he would be in. So, assuming he wasn't cleared of all wrongdoing do you think it's right or wrong to keep him out?
    Well, my thoughts are that he was such a very good football player at IUP that he should be in. Took IUP to a national title game and was the runner-up for the Harlon Hill the following year. He was a top five player in IUP football history in my opinion. There is no doubt that he should be in there. I shake my head that he is not. Just yet another thing that I do not see eye to eye with IUP any longer. O.J. is in the NFL HOF and he certainly should be. He was one of the greats. Off the field not so much.

    I find Hall of Fames in general as very curios things. As IUPBigIndians says they are indeed very political things. Why do some players or coaches get in and others do not? Even the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is very odd in how they do things. I look at the Indiana County Sports Hall of Fame and I am simply appalled that guys that I looked up to when i was in seventh grade like Mike Bertness and John Pettina of Indiana High and Greg Greczek of Homer-Center are not included. Half the people in the county HOF would not even be worthy to wipe the sweat off of these guys. All were multi sport standouts and each played a sport very well at IUP. It baffles me beyond belief.

    Then there is the debate about if Hines Ward should get into the NFL HOF. Of course he should. He was a gritty and charsimatic player who went to multiple Pro Bowls and was a SB MVP. I say he gets in but he may have to wait awhile. Swann and Stallworth had to wait some time as well.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    From what I could find in a quick search, it appears he was sentenced (and served) 4 years in prison. So, he did the crime -- and the time.

    Truth be told very few souls on Earth would even know about this if IUP were to let him in to the HOF. White collar, non-violent crime and he paid his debt to society ... I guess it wouldn't bother me either way.

    We certainly took on a lot of players in that era who had criminal records prior to even playing a snap in Miller. If that's the era of players mainly getting nominated now ... seems to me a little of the pot calling the kettle black.
    It was about 6 or 7 years ago. We were visiting my wife's cousin in Chadds Ford. When we went to leave, I saw we were close to Cheyney. We stayed at a Hampton Inn - I believe along 322. Took the drive since Cheyney was the only PASSHE campus I'd never visited. Granted it was the summer and most of our campuses look desolate then, but wow did Cheyney seem abandoned.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    Michael Vick was inducted into the Va Tech Sports HOF in 2017.

    Like Vick, Aliucci made a mistake and he served his time. I guess one question is whether he has redeemed himself since then I think I would vote him into the IUP HOF.
    Cheating D1 schools have different standards.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    From what I could find in a quick search, it appears he was sentenced (and served) 4 years in prison. So, he did the crime -- and the time.

    Truth be told very few souls on Earth would even know about this if IUP were to let him in to the HOF. White collar, non-violent crime and he paid his debt to society ... I guess it wouldn't bother me either way.

    We certainly took on a lot of players in that era who had criminal records prior to even playing a snap in Miller. If that's the era of players mainly getting nominated now ... seems to me a little of the pot calling the kettle black.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    The voting doesn't seem to be big on timeliness. I see they are inducting my former Wahr Hall floormate Dan Radakovich 41 years after his graduation. He's been the AD at Clemson since 2012 and before that, he was AD at Georgia Tech for many years. I think he also was the top officer for the national association of AD's for a while.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    Michael Vick was inducted into the Va Tech Sports HOF in 2017.

    Like Vick, Aliucci made a mistake and he served his time. I guess one question is whether he has redeemed himself since then I think I would vote him into the IUP HOF.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
    If Aliucci was exonerated of all charges I think he would be in. So, assuming he wasn't cleared of all wrongdoing do you think it's right or wrong to keep him out?

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Michael Vick was inducted into the Va Tech Sports HOF in 2017.

    Like Vick, Aliucci made a mistake and he served his time. I guess one question is whether he has redeemed himself since then I think I would vote him into the IUP HOF.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Aliucci was included in the IUP 150 list which came out a year and a half ago.

    https://iupathletics.com/news/2019/1...s-cfb-150.aspx

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post

    IUP Hall of Fame is a joke without former QB and Harlon Hill runner-up Tony Aliucci not included. Kind of hard to take it that serious when he is being kept out of it.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    If Aliucci was exonerated of all charges I think he would be in. So, assuming he wasn't cleared of all wrongdoing do you think it's right or wrong to keep him out?
    Last edited by iupgroundhog; 06-02-2021, 10:06 AM.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post

    That day is coming.
    Indiana county should have 3 high schools top. Homer Center should be merged into Indiana High. Marion Center and Penns Manor merged and United, Blairsville and Saltsburg be merged.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Unless it's changed I don't think they actually have a waiting period. Darryl Webb was inducted several years ago. Joe should have an army of players getting in pretty soon. There's still quite a bit from the Gary Edwards era, too, that should be inducted.

    Now, Gary Edwards is an interesting candidate. Not going to happen, of course, but he's certainly worthy. He was accused of a lot there at the end but I don't think the NCAA really pinned much on him when it was all said and done. Many still feel that was a witch hunt (myself included).

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Unless it's changed I don't think they actually have a waiting period. Darryl Webb was inducted several years ago. Joe should have an army of players getting in pretty soon. There's still quite a bit from the Gary Edwards era, too, that should be inducted.

    Now, Gary Edwards is an interesting candidate. Not going to happen, of course, but he's certainly worthy. He was accused of a lot there at the end but I don't think the NCAA really pinned much on him when it was all said and done. Many still feel that was a witch hunt (myself included).

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