2025 Non-Conference Games

[Fightingscot82]

It’s hard to call IUP a current “power” in the PSAC. You don’t get to have a losing season throwing in two losses to Edinboro and one to Seton Hill, and also going 0-4 against your top rivals the last two years along the way and be considered a power. You don’t get to lose a game because you forgot how many timeouts you had. That can NEVER happen, not once. IUP has one national playoff win since 2018. ONE. It doesn’t matter why or how good some think they should have been. The record is the record. They did win the PSAC in 2022 but then got drubbed on their own field in the SR1 championship by Shepherd, the same team they beat to win the PSAC.

As a longtime IUP fan and someone who was a student during the run of dominance and national prominence, it pains me to say that IUP is just among a group of pretty good teams that are behind the top dogs, Kutztown and Slippery Rock. They no longer have the advantages they once did and it’s showing. The program is just as close to falling into the middle of the pack as it is getting to the top, and that’s scary to think about.

Fair description. I put IUP with Cal - they are PSAC West contenders until further notice because if anything they're consistently above average. Everyone else is too inconsistent.

[EyeoftheHawk]

It’s hard to call IUP a current “power” in the PSAC. You don’t get to have a losing season throwing in two losses to Edinboro and one to Seton Hill, and also going 0-4 against your top rivals the last two years along the way and be considered a power. You don’t get to lose a game because you forgot how many timeouts you had. That can NEVER happen, not once. IUP has one national playoff win since 2018. ONE. It doesn’t matter why or how good some think they should have been. The record is the record. They did win the PSAC in 2022 but then got drubbed on their own field in the SR1 championship by Shepherd, the same team they beat to win the PSAC.

As a longtime IUP fan and someone who was a student during the run of dominance and national prominence, it pains me to say that IUP is just among a group of pretty good teams that are behind the top dogs, Kutztown and Slippery Rock. They no longer have the advantages they once did and it’s showing. The program is just as close to falling into the middle of the pack as it is getting to the top, and that’s scary to think about.

[iupgroundhog]

Pretty incredible to have 2 final 4 appearances in that time span and have that bad of a record.

I'm assuming playoff wins are vacated, too.

[Ram040506]

It was for the 2022/23 seasons. So, the record for the last 4 seasons should be about 15-30 something, or so.

Pretty incredible to have 2 final 4 appearances in that time span and have that bad of a record.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I don't think it was for this past year, but I didn't really care to dive into a ruling that had very little consequence on the here and now. I'll say their record was below expectations for the program though.

Beyond that, their record the last 2 years is 15-8, with a playoff appearance. Not a power though, just like your school isn't.

I think this board as a whole jumps too fast on the here and now. Everybody is guilty of it.

IUP and Shepherd are powers because they've been good for a very, very long time. Some dips here and there, sure. It happens.

Tort has a great overall record ... but, my goodness, it could really great. The how/why they've lost so many games in the final minute is up for debate. But, man, he should probably have 7-8 more wins than he does.

[iupgroundhog]

I don't think it was for this past year, but I didn't really care to dive into a ruling that had very little consequence on the here and now. I'll say their record was below expectations for the program though.

Beyond that, their record the last 2 years is 15-8, with a playoff appearance. Not a power though, just like your school isn't.

It was for the 2022/23 seasons. So, the record for the last 4 seasons should be about 15-30 something, or so.

[Ram040506]

I thought the NCAA ruling included that they had to vacate their wins. No?

I don't think it was for this past year, but I didn't really care to dive into a ruling that had very little consequence on the here and now. I'll say their record was below expectations for the program though.

Beyond that, their record the last 2 years is 15-8, with a playoff appearance. Not a power though, just like your school isn't.

[iupgroundhog]

Look it up.

I thought the NCAA ruling included that they had to vacate their wins. No?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

At least they follow the rules.

What is Shepherd's record for the last 2 years?

IUP should have been 10-0 in the regular season.

It's still too soon to talk about.

LOL (but not really)

That was one of the more painful seasons to watch as a fan. So close. So far.

[Ram040506]

At least they follow the rules.

What is Shepherd's record for the last 2 years?

Look it up.

[iupgroundhog]

IUP is 13-8 over the last 2 seasons. That's a Power? .

At least they follow the rules.

What is Shepherd's record for the last 2 years?

[Ram040506]

You took the bait.

Its the offseason and something to go back and forth on.

[Ram040506]

That's not my perception. I'm not taking the time to compile a bunch of statistics. The East has Kutztown. The West has 3 powers. The East has a rising ESU and LHU (maybe). There isn't much to be said for the rest of that division, although Bloom might be rebounding. We'll see. I'm betting on the West.

The west has 3 powers just cause you say it does? IUP is 13-8 over the last 2 seasons. That's a Power? They won the PSAC in 2022, but who ended their season again that year in an absolute drubbing? Cal had a good year last year, but hadn't made it to the playoffs since 2018. By that logic, its only Kutztown and Slippery Rock.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Clobbered? East has won 4 out of the last 6 PSAC state games. West Chester won the last one in 2018 (kutztown the other 3). If they have improved enough to take the East, they aren't getting clobbered by anyone in the West.

That notion that the West is still superior to the East faded about 5 or 6 years ago. Frankly the East is better than the West in the last handful of years.

You took the bait.

[iupgroundhog]

Clobbered? East has won 4 out of the last 6 PSAC state games. West Chester won the last one in 2018 (kutztown the other 3). If they have improved enough to take the East, they aren't getting clobbered by anyone in the West.

That notion that the West is still superior to the East faded about 5 or 6 years ago. Frankly the East is better than the West in the last handful of years.

That's not my perception. I'm not taking the time to compile a bunch of statistics. The East has Kutztown. The West has 3 powers. The East has a rising ESU and LHU (maybe). There isn't much to be said for the rest of that division, although Bloom might be rebounding. We'll see. I'm betting on the West.