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  • Oklahoma State Government wants all D2 Schools in same Conference

    https://www.mcalesternews.com/news/l...1b70d597e.html

    Not sure about this. Money must be getting tight in Oklahoma. I have heard about this Oklahoma only d2 conference before but I didn't think politicians were going to actually force the issue.

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    Honestly this would be athletic suicide. Yes, it may save schools money and have students in classes more often. However, some of the best memories for athletes and humans is to travel and see different places. Those bonds on those trips last way past a persons playing days. Not to mention recruiting would go down the tank. I don’t feel like there’s enough recruits in the state of Oklahoma to fill all the schools on the football side for there to be any competition. As mentioned in the article, there’s free marketing when schools travel to different areas of the country. This is one of those ideas that looks great on paper but not at all practical. Politicians need to stay out of sports and let the universities and athletic directors handle it.

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    • #3
      Where would that leave the AR schools? Back to the GSC I would imagine. I think in the short term it would save the OK schools money but I’m with you I think it would be athletic suicide. Ultimately the student athletes they would lose from playing only OK schools may not be enough compared to the money they lose from travel.

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      • #4
        How many D2 Football programs are in Oklahoma?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eagle74 View Post
          How many D2 Football programs are in Oklahoma?
          11

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          • #6
            There are only 8 current D2 football programs in Oklahoma right now. I don't think it would be athletic suicide if they decided to form their own conference. It would open up non-conference games again in football at least. I know the LSC would love it, because they are hurting for non-con games every year.

            As for recruiting, it's probably not going to affect most of the Oklahoma schools at all. Every year I was at SWOSU, we only recruited Oklahoma and Texas, and it was roughly 50/50, with some JUCO guys mixed in, and we never played any schools in Texas lol. I know the Arkansas schools have a pretty sweet setup with this conference, and I actually enjoy the setup as well, but it could be for the best for the OK schools. The non-football sports would save a ton of money.

            Idk, we'll have to see all the pros and cons, but I personally would love the idea of playing all the OK schools in conference, and having 3 non-con games every year in football. They have been talking about this for years though, so I doubt we actually see anything come of it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BulldogLB View Post
              There are only 8 current D2 football programs in Oklahoma right now. I don't think it would be athletic suicide if they decided to form their own conference. It would open up non-conference games again in football at least. I know the LSC would love it, because they are hurting for non-con games every year.

              As for recruiting, it's probably not going to affect most of the Oklahoma schools at all. Every year I was at SWOSU, we only recruited Oklahoma and Texas, and it was roughly 50/50, with some JUCO guys mixed in, and we never played any schools in Texas lol. I know the Arkansas schools have a pretty sweet setup with this conference, and I actually enjoy the setup as well, but it could be for the best for the OK schools. The non-football sports would save a ton of money.

              Idk, we'll have to see all the pros and cons, but I personally would love the idea of playing all the OK schools in conference, and having 3 non-con games every year in football. They have been talking about this for years though, so I doubt we actually see anything come of it.
              They have for sure. This was the first time I have seen it actually being forcefully pushed. I can guarantee you if it saves the state a nickel they will be all over it.

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              • #8
                Brandon talked about this last night on the D2football show online.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Techster88 View Post

                  They have for sure. This was the first time I have seen it actually being forcefully pushed. I can guarantee you if it saves the state a nickel they will be all over it.
                  Classic political move. They could save the tax payers real money with actual cuts to wasteful spending, budget reductions, eliminate fluff etc but, no, let's worry about D2 athletic travel.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Techster88 View Post
                    https://www.mcalesternews.com/news/l...1b70d597e.html

                    Not sure about this. Money must be getting tight in Oklahoma. I have heard about this Oklahoma only d2 conference before but I didn't think politicians were going to actually force the issue.
                    There have been movements to get all the Oklahoma D2 programs in a single conference for god knows how long... It might happen eventually, but it's a lot easier said than done.
                    Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BulldogLB View Post
                      There are only 8 current D2 football programs in Oklahoma right now. I don't think it would be athletic suicide if they decided to form their own conference. It would open up non-conference games again in football at least. I know the LSC would love it, because they are hurting for non-con games every year.

                      As for recruiting, it's probably not going to affect most of the Oklahoma schools at all. Every year I was at SWOSU, we only recruited Oklahoma and Texas, and it was roughly 50/50, with some JUCO guys mixed in, and we never played any schools in Texas lol. I know the Arkansas schools have a pretty sweet setup with this conference, and I actually enjoy the setup as well, but it could be for the best for the OK schools. The non-football sports would save a ton of money.

                      Idk, we'll have to see all the pros and cons, but I personally would love the idea of playing all the OK schools in conference, and having 3 non-con games every year in football. They have been talking about this for years though, so I doubt we actually see anything come of it.
                      The LSC schools are probably even more desperate now that TAMU-Commerce is moving up to the D1/FCS Southland Conference as early as next year. By my count, that leaves the LSC with seven football schools and if or or both the two New Mexico schools ever think about bailing for the RMAC or some other option (highly doubtful, since they don't exactly have a landing spot), then the LSC is in serious trouble from a football standpoint.

                      About the only upside to this is that you're potentially looking at the MIAA losing two schools, thus ending their silo scheduling scheme.
                      Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                      • #12
                        This sounds like pressure from OKC to get UCO and Northeastern State to leave the MIAA either for a new Oklahoma-only conference or the existing GAC.

                        This shouldn't affect Oklahoma Christian (LSC) as they're a private school, but it'll definitely put some pressure on the other two state-owned D2 schools which don't sponsor football - Cameron (LSC) and Rogers State (MIAA), both of which are governed by the OU Board of Regents - to join such a conference.
                        Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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                        • #13
                          First I’ve heard about the possibility of the MIAA loosing two schools. I assume from your comment you’re talking about NEOK and COSU. Do you really think this will eventually happen if the other OK schools form their own D2 conference?

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                          • #14
                            If the OK politicians make it that way, then yes, NSU and UCO would have to leave the MIAA. But I keep hearing whispers that UCO is very close to making the jump to the FCS. Who knows what they will actually decide to do.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BulldogLB View Post
                              If the OK politicians make it that way, then yes, NSU and UCO would have to leave the MIAA. But I keep hearing whispers that UCO is very close to making the jump to the FCS. Who knows what they will actually decide to do.
                              UCO can't go D1 without adding a men's sport first. D1 requires 14 total sports with at least 6 for men. Are there any signs that the Bronchos are about to add a men's sport?

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