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Listen bedtime for me. I’ll leave you one last comment for the night. Ferris St best win….GVSU, only loss…Pitt St. We handled them both pretty well. This mighty off you speak of scored an avg of 25.5 per game against Davenport and Saginaw at the end of the year. Think you might find Harding’s def a little better than both. Even so I don’t think you can win if you score 25. Now I might be wrong. I have no problem eating crow and congratulating you on having the better team if I am. Can you be man enough to do the same next week? It was fun going back and forth with you but getting bored. May the best team win.
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Originally posted by BisonOL View PostListen bedtime for me. I’ll leave you one last comment for the night. Ferris St best win….GVSU, only loss…Pitt St. We handled them both pretty well. This mighty off you speak of scored an avg of 25.5 per game against Davenport and Saginaw at the end of the year. Think you might find Harding’s def a little better than both. Even so I don’t think you can win if you score 25. Now I might be wrong. I have no problem eating crow and congratulating you on having the better team if I am. Can you be man enough to do the same next week? It was fun going back and forth with you but getting bored. May the best team win.
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Originally posted by FSUBulldog27 View Post
your plane ride home next week will suck. All your average seniors will have to go in the fields to work for a living or maybe a lead greater at Walmart. Get to bed bible thumper
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This thread got out of hand pretty quickly. The battle will be won in the trenches, and it may come down to whoever has the ball last. I think I take the dogs who aren't one-dimensional. Ifffffff Harding gets too far behind it's going to be a tough up hill battle for them. How many of you guys are going to Big Rapids this Saturday?
Harding has done a great job recruiting the players who fall through the cracks as they don't meet the physical standards of top D2 and D1 schools. I hope they keep their ear muffs on, too, as the dogs like to bark at their opponents.
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Originally posted by FSUBulldogs View PostThis thread got out of hand pretty quickly. The battle will be won in the trenches, and it may come down to whoever has the ball last. I think I take the dogs who aren't one-dimensional. Ifffffff Harding gets too far behind it's going to be a tough up hill battle for them. How many of you guys are going to Big Rapids this Saturday?
Harding has done a great job recruiting the players who fall through the cracks as they don't meet the physical standards of top D2 and D1 schools. I hope they keep their ear muffs on, too, as the dogs like to bark at their opponents.
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Originally posted by BisonOL View Post
This an interesting point about recruiting though. When u guys look at marquee players, ur looking at what recruiting ranks say about talent. Let’s take QB for example, how watered down for any of us is top QB talent by the time it hits D2 level. The best are snagged by FBS and next best usually by FCS. Now how many FBS and FCS teams run exclusively an option style offense. We don’t care about the best pro style QB’s because they don’t beat suit what we do. I would wager to say though that Cole K is one of the very best option style QBs in the country regardless of level. The kid simply hardly ever misses a read. No his athletic prowess may not compare to some other D2 QBs but for what we’re looking for we couldn’t find a better fit. Same with WR. We all want the ones who can do it all, but the way we evaluate that position is going to be much diff than the rest of the country. So when you say best talent what does that really mean? We have some of the best talent in the country for what we do.
The best talent to me is the overall talent of the athlete. You have a model where your players must be able to do certain things well based on their position. I completely disagree with your statement about your QB. He may be able to run the option well, but there are so many D1 players who run the option that I can confidently say are better athletes than him. You must take the blinders off every once in a while, man. Yes, he does a great job on the Harding team, but you can sub him out for about 100 players across all levels that don't just run the option. When I watched him in the two playoff games and the OBU game, he looked very slow for a running QB. He can hit the holes hard, but he isn't outrunning anyone.
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Originally posted by FSUBulldogs View Post
It makes sense and I feel like more D2 schools could adopt this model and do well. Northern Michigan attempted it this year, but this was their first year at it.
The best talent to me is the overall talent of the athlete. You have a model where your players must be able to do certain things well based on their position. I completely disagree with your statement about your QB. He may be able to run the option well, but there are so many D1 players who run the option that I can confidently say are better athletes than him. You must take the blinders off every once in a while, man. Yes, he does a great job on the Harding team, but you can sub him out for about 100 players across all levels that don't just run the option. When I watched him in the two playoff games and the OBU game, he looked very slow for a running QB. He can hit the holes hard, but he isn't outrunning anyone.Last edited by BisonOL; 12-02-2024, 04:39 PM.
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Originally posted by BisonOL View Post
Think u missed my second point. I wholeheartedly agree that there are are other option QBs out there prob more naturally athletically gifted, but….he hardly ever misses a read!! For what we do so much is placed on the QB making split second reads that precision > overall athletic talent. Now would u love both….obviously. But I’ll take read over speed any day. The kid is simply a winner and that part is unquestionable. And I don’t know about 100. There was only one option qb who walked away with a NC last year at any level D2 and up and that was Cole. I’ll go u a step further. I’m not sure there is a qb including service academies that reads the def any better. There’s a reason we were the first team in the history of college fb all levels to rush for over 6000 yds last yr and a reason we’re on pace for 7000 this year if we go all the way.
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