MIAA Funding Numbers

[libertybearcat]

Absolutely. It's the closest we can come without spending thousands of dollars in research and FOI filings.

So, you're saying you're working on that? :D

[Brandon]

Thanks for the fun research Hornetfan.

[Brandon]

I assume you got your figures from the Equity in Athletics site? The most important thing to remember about that site is that not all schools report the same way

Absolutely. It's the closest we can come without spending thousands of dollars in research and FOI filings.

[Brandon]

Without looking, my guess would be these are full-time equivalent, rather than total head count, so 2 or 3 part-time students (or more) would only count as one FTE.

I believe that is correct.

[Hornetfan]

The site that was used for the figures is pretty cool and you can do a lot of stuff with it.
I went through and collected football expenses for all 12 MIAA schools from 2014-17. I used those years because they were the most recent ones and I started at 2014 since that is when we started playing a full silo schedule.
If I figured things correctly here is the cost per win over that time:

School	Cost/win
UCO	29,198.77
NWMSU	29,903.39
ESU	30,965.28
MWSU	31,309.67
PSU	32,183.22
WU	33,173.57
UCM	42,016.35
FHSU	52,397.21
MSSU	97,212.71
UNK	114,082.29
LWU	120,450.58
NSU	195,363.00

And here are the total wins in that time

School	Wins
NWMSU	49
FHSU	34
UCM	34
ESU	32
PSU	32
UCO	26
WU	23
MWSU	21
LWU	12
UNK	7
MSSU	7
NSU	6

Again I realize that the way the numbers are used for each school are different but it looks to me like NWMSU, ESU and PSU are the only teams that averaged at least seven wins a game over that four year period and spent less than $40,000 per win to get there.

[Hornetfan]

One other thing I didn't add - it looks like the data that Brandon used is from 2017 - which is the most recent data available. If I recall correctly the information has to be submitted by October 31 of the following year. That way you have a full school year to work with all sports and I think most schools work on a July to June fiscal year.

[Hornetfan]

I assume you got your figures from the Equity in Athletics site? The most important thing to remember about that site is that not all schools report the same way.

An example of expenses would be security at games. One school could count that as a football expense, another could see it as a department expense (not allocated by Gender/Sport in the report), and another one could see it as a university expense (wouldn't show up at all in this report).

Another could be "multi-use" facilities. I'm not saying they are but the big indoor facilities like at Pitt State, MWSU, NWMSU could all be counted differently in the expenses. One place could break it down by percentage of use by each sport, one could divide it evenly by every program, one could just say that it's the general responsibility of the department, or one could say that it's a partnership with another entity and not even report that expense.

Another area that could make a difference is how scholarships are counted. There are some waivers that might need to be accounted for when reporting to the NCAA but maybe not to this report since they would not be actual cash involved.

And like Brandon said there could be one time expenditures that skew the data - like UCO's endzone facility that he mentioned.

Overall it's probably the best place to find this kind of information but you need to remember that not everything is created equal.

[GrifFan]

Without looking, my guess would be these are full-time equivalent, rather than total head count, so 2 or 3 part-time students (or more) would only count as one FTE.

[Brandon]

You mean like gameday stuff?

[Predatory Primates]

Things like hotels, meals, buses, etc.

Gotcha. Like consumables.

[voicefromthestands]

How does Booster Club money figure in on these figures ?

[HookemHerd]

That's the operating budget.

Does not include coaches' salaries, scholarships, etc.

I think Northwest was next on the list after Emporia.

[Brandon]

I bet the reason their number is so high that year was a donation for the endzone facility.

[northwest missouri state]

[Brandon]

That's what I'm asking. Does it say somewhere what the football expense monies include?

Sorry if it's a dumb question, I don't know much about how schools report other than I have heard that none are the same.

Things like hotels, meals, buses, etc.