Northeastern State

[the Northeasterner]

I realize youre comparing us to your campus but you DO know we have plenty of other sports???? Now go look up the NCs in the last 10 years...dont make me tell you what they are.

Thats why I emphasized ANYTHING.

No doubt UCO is the master at wrestling . And congratulations on that. I mean it too

UCO vs NSU wrestling is something I'm looking forward too over the next few years.

[the Northeasterner]

And I guess I do owe an apology I did not see the 24 season when I was looking back . So they did win one playoff game and I was wrong


But I will stand by my statement that UCO is not an upgrade of jobs .there are some advantages compared to nsu but there are also sizeable disadvantages. I believe the only upgrades in D2 jobs are Grand valley Ferris Minnesota state Valdosta Harding Pitt State northwest mo Indianapolis and iup.

But I would bet money that if he leaves he's going to go to FCS cuz he has a reputation of a program builder. And make a lot more money that any d2 program can offer.

[RollChos]

No doubt UCO is the master at wrestling . And congratulations on that. I mean it too

UCO vs NSU wrestling is something I'm looking forward too over the next few years.

Bro that will be a blood bath. UCO has dominated Oklahoma D2 wrestling forever.

[AlexTheHAMMER]

Bro that will be a blood bath. UCO has dominated Oklahoma D2 wrestling forever.

Years 1-2-3 might be a bloodbath, but years 4-5-6-7-8 might be competitive ones. Oklahoma and Texas are states with lots of wrestling talent and not a lot of college teams to go on and continue with your career.

[the Northeasterner]

Bro that will be a blood bath. UCO has dominated Oklahoma D2 wrestling forever.

It will start off as one. But it won't stay that way. There is way more talent in this state than college slots. I agree with Alex the hammer on his it goes long term

[jimbo slice]

Years 1-2-3 might be a bloodbath, but years 4-5-6-7-8 might be competitive ones. Oklahoma and Texas are states with lots of wrestling talent and not a lot of college teams to go on and continue with your career.

This is the VERY conversation I've been waiting to have with Texans for 2 decades. Texas has sh*t for wrestlers. They haven't prioritized wrestling in that state and every single time we went to Texas to wrestle or another national tournament as high schoolers, our schools (oklahoma highschools always won 1st second our 3rd in the tourneys we were in) and individual wrestlers dominated. Allen Texas has been the consistant exception.
What texas is for high school football regionaly, oklahoma is for wrestling in the same areas. In my opinion, as long as UCOS current coaching staff is in place, we will dominate with oklahoma wrestlers. The little league program in edmond has 4 coaches that are ncaa national champion wrestlers and are dying to coach at UCO. I personall dont see nsu ever competing with us on a team level in wrestling. I think ucos current roster has either a state or national champuon at every weight.

Time will tell and louden swains always come out of the woodwork but as a body of work, gonna be tough for nsu to pull talent away from edmond.

[RollChos]

It will start off as one. But it won't stay that way. There is way more talent in this state than college slots. I agree with Alex the hammer on his it goes long term

I actually think in general for most sports, men’s and women’s, UCO tends to have the upper hand in state. We don’t lose to other Oklahoma D2 schools often. I don’t know if that is a compliment to us or if it just means all other Oklahoma D2 schools are mediocre.

[the Northeasterner]

I actually think in general for most sports, men’s and women’s, UCO tends to have the upper hand in state. We don’t lose to other Oklahoma D2 schools often. I don’t know if that is a compliment to us or if it just means all other Oklahoma D2 schools are mediocre.

UCO is near OKC with a lot of programs that are desirable. They should have an advantage. If they were anywhere else they could easily be a FCS school but ou and OSU both less than 50 miles in either directions will mean it will always be third .

[RollChos]

UCO is near OKC with a lot of programs that are desirable. They should have an advantage. If they were anywhere else they could easily be a FCS school but ou and OSU both less than 50 miles in either directions will mean it will always be third .

Nobody is under any illusions that UCO would ever over take OU or OSU in sports prowess. lol

[the Northeasterner]

Nobody is under any illusions that UCO would ever over take OU or OSU in sports prowess. lol

It's not prowess it's money and support.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

This is the VERY conversation I've been waiting to have with Texans for 2 decades. Texas has sh*t for wrestlers. They haven't prioritized wrestling in that state and every single time we went to Texas to wrestle or another national tournament as high schoolers, our schools (oklahoma highschools always won 1st second our 3rd in the tourneys we were in) and individual wrestlers dominated. Allen Texas has been the consistant exception.

Ive have been out of the game for a while since my kids arent interested in Wrestling.

For a time in the 90s, My high school in Amarillo (Tascosa) was consistently winning state titles in different weight classes.

Brandon Slay won the olympic gold medal in Syndey in 2000 and that was our most famous and successful alum.

Cycles change and looks like Allen is the Texas Alpha Dog now.

[the Northeasterner]

I'll give you an example of what can happen with wrestling. When I moved to the fort Smith area in 1999 there was no wrestling in Arkansas. It started with Bentonville and Rogers an area where a lot of Missouri Kansas and Iowa transplants came down to work in Northwest Arkansas. And then it became a big priority. There are multiple colleges in Arkansas that have wrestling programs now. Is it anything like Oklahoma Missouri or Kansas when it comes to wrestling no. But it went from nothing to something in less than two decades because of migrants.

What I think you will see in Texas is the same thing as people move to the DFW area from the Midwest.... wrestling will follow

[the Northeasterner]

This is the VERY conversation I've been waiting to have with Texans for 2 decades. Texas has sh*t for wrestlers. They haven't prioritized wrestling in that state and every single time we went to Texas to wrestle or another national tournament as high schoolers, our schools (oklahoma highschools always won 1st second our 3rd in the tourneys we were in) and individual wrestlers dominated. Allen Texas has been the consistant exception.
What texas is for high school football regionaly, oklahoma is for wrestling in the same areas. In my opinion, as long as UCOS current coaching staff is in place, we will dominate with oklahoma wrestlers. The little league program in edmond has 4 coaches that are ncaa national champion wrestlers and are dying to coach at UCO. I personall dont see nsu ever competing with us on a team level in wrestling. I think ucos current roster has either a state or national champuon at every weight.

Time will tell and louden swains always come out of the woodwork but as a body of work, gonna be tough for nsu to pull talent away from edmond.

Oh it will probably be Uco for a while but I think it will actually become something over time. Wrestling is one of those things that one good wrestler will change your team and your culture and spark the move to greatness. UCO is in the wrestling core area of the state. But there's so many great wrestlers in Oklahoma not near enough college opportunities I think that you will eventually see it become competitive

[the Northeasterner]

William Jewell comes to Tahlequah tomorrow for a noon game

[Predatory Primates]

Ive have been out of the game for a while since my kids arent interested in Wrestling.

For a time in the 90s, My high school in Amarillo (Tascosa) was consistently winning state titles in different weight classes.

Brandon Slay won the olympic gold medal in Syndey in 2000 and that was our most famous and successful alum.

Cycles change and looks like Allen is the Texas Alpha Dog now.

Even in wrestling states, it's almost a regional phenomena at the HS level. In KS, wrestling is huge in some regions, and more of an afterthought in others. The same goes for MO where basketball is king in the rural areas and small schools often choose to focus on hoops over wrestling.

Iowa is different. It's a religion up there.