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Originally posted by MrAugustana View PostThe funny thing is I hadn't even considered the Brookings or Vermillion papers. I was only referring to the Sioux Falls media covering SDSU/USD to death. And while I don't disagree that SDSU's success influences their coverage, my point is that those schools get significantly more coverage in their moderate success than Augie gets in its best success. Even Augie's men's basketball National Championship coverage in 2016 was pretty quickly overshadowed by the SDSU NCAA Tournament coverage and the USD women's NIT coverage. And that's back when Augie had a full-time beat writer at the Argus, which they lost the following year. Frankly, that's another point: being tops in D2 still leaves the Vikings hoping they get coverage scraps in their local market. And I don't just mean the newspaper., which I recognize is a dying medium anyway. The number of TV news stories and special interest pieces isn't even close either.
Definitely agree this is the right city for a D1 program. And as far as the decision to jump goes, if they aren't prepared to invest in their success at the D1 level, then we'd better not even try. If we jump up and just try to scrap by on a bare bones budget and funding, it will certainly be a failure. But I highly doubt that would be the case at this point when hopefully everyone involved knows the stakes.
I'm glad you don't hate our Augie crew. You're probably one of only a handful of posters that doesn't strongly dislike us. Which is a shame, because we're really awesome people. :)Last edited by vikingfaithful; 05-31-2019, 09:37 AM.
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Originally posted by vikingfaithful View PostPeople do not generally like us with the exception of MSU fans, because they also are privy to a powerful program ;)
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Originally posted by MrAugustana View PostThe funny thing is I hadn't even considered the Brookings or Vermillion papers. I was only referring to the Sioux Falls media covering SDSU/USD to death. And while I don't disagree that SDSU's success influences their coverage, my point is that those schools get significantly more coverage in their moderate success than Augie gets in its best success. Even Augie's men's basketball National Championship coverage in 2016 was pretty quickly overshadowed by the SDSU NCAA Tournament coverage and the USD women's NIT coverage. And that's back when Augie had a full-time beat writer at the Argus, which they lost the following year. Frankly, that's another point: being tops in D2 still leaves the Vikings hoping they get coverage scraps in their local market. And I don't just mean the newspaper., which I recognize is a dying medium anyway. The number of TV news stories and special interest pieces isn't even close either.
Definitely agree this is the right city for a D1 program. And as far as the decision to jump goes, if they aren't prepared to invest in their success at the D1 level, then we'd better not even try. If we jump up and just try to scrap by on a bare bones budget and funding, it will certainly be a failure. But I highly doubt that would be the case at this point when hopefully everyone involved knows the stakes.
I'm glad you don't hate our Augie crew. You're probably one of only a handful of posters that doesn't strongly dislike us. Which is a shame, because we're really awesome people. :)
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Oh I absolutely get that it's supply and demand. The Argus writer, for example, has mentioned more than once that they have to go with the coverage that gets them the most clicks, and Augie certainly is not winning in that regard. My hope with a D1 transition is that we would be able to establish a pseudo-alumni base of bandwagon fans (even if they aren't actual alums) as we grow in popularity.
That's by no means a guarantee, just the hope I would have based on the size of the city and the lack of a D1 presence within city limits.
And I know you yourself were acknowledging that the second part I bolded from your post was essentially coming back around to my initial point, but that's really what it comes down to. If D2 continues to be more and more of an afterthought, the options are to either accept that and roll with it or try do something that elevates your status. At this point, I would rather see us try than continue fading Into relative obscurity by comparison to the other schools in this area that are D1.
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Originally posted by MrAugustana View PostAt this point, I would rather see us try than continue fading Into relative obscurity by comparison to the other schools in this area that are D1.
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My dream for Mankato would be. MVC (with most of the other midwest state-state institutions and better than the Summit), MVFC (old NCC and premier FCS conference), Big 12 in wrestling (completely doable affiliate of a P5 conference), NCHC (best conference in hockey), WCHA.
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Mr. A,
Is there a date by which you think the school will announce specifics of the D-I move?
What is your guess on timeframe for entering D-I? Next year?
What about conference membership? Summit, WAC, or independent?
Do you see football getting the money necessary to go to 63 equivalencies? Or is nonscholarship in the Pioneer more likely? Maybe there's a Plan C for football that I haven't considered (?).
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Originally posted by Lurkingdog View PostMr. A,
Is there a date by which you think the school will announce specifics of the D-I move?
What is your guess on timeframe for entering D-I? Next year?
What about conference membership? Summit, WAC, or independent?
Do you see football getting the money necessary to go to 63 equivalencies? Or is nonscholarship in the Pioneer more likely? Maybe there's a Plan C for football that I haven't considered (?).
Based on what I've heard, I'm about 90% certain Augie won't go D1 by next year. I would be surprised if it was even within the next two years, but others might know more.
As far as conference membership goes, I don't believe D2s are allowed to go independent anymore (I think that rule was changed around 2008 or 2009, maybe?). If we don't get an invite to the Summit, I would be both surprised and disappointed. I definitely won't be as excited about this D1 jump if we end up having to go to the WAC. Partially because beating SDSU/USD/NDSU/UND (at least in basketball) would bring me exceeding joy. Playing teams in the WAC would bring me less joy.
No idea on football. Sorry.
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