University of Jamestown reportedly applies for NSIC membership

[laker]

Waldorf joined the GPAC for the 24-25 season. North Star is down to four football teams. What course will those schools take?

[debergfan]

I don't think Jamestown would be "another Crookston". Crookston has been uncompetitive in 90% of sports. I'm guessing Jamestown will be closer to 50-60%, on par with a good chunk of the current members.

Based on what...

JV teams are probably done, men's soccer and men's volleyball are gone. Scholarship model in NAIA is completely different. You also have to tell recruits you're ineligible for post-season tournament for 5 years?

Very Uncompetitive teams - FB, MW, SB
Uncompetitive teams - WBB,BSB, XC, TF
Competitive teams - MBB, VB, SD
Unknown - WW

[CollegeFBGuy]

I believe it was mentioned pages ago, but when does this vote happen?

[IceBoxDragon]

I believe it was mentioned pages ago, but when does this vote happen?

Here are some excerpts I found from a story in the Fargo-Moorhead Forum. Doesn't give an exact date but mentions having a decision by the end of the year.

The Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference is likely to make a decision on whether or not to extend an invitation to the University of Jamestown prior to the new year, according to league commissioner Erin Lind.

Lind said the NSIC, an NCAA Division II conference, is projected to make a decision on the potential membership of the North Dakota school — a four-year private university — by the end of December.

Lind said Northern Sun directors need to learn more about Jamestown’s athletic department before that decision is made. University of Jamestown President Polly Peterson is scheduled to make an in-person presentation to the NSIC Board of Directors — made up of the school’s presidents and chancellors — in late September. Jamestown would need a two-thirds majority vote from the league’s board to get an invitation to the NSIC.

If invited to the NSIC, Jamestown would have the lowest enrollment in terms of full-time undergraduates in the conference, according to the Equity in Athletic Data Analysis website. For the 2021-2022 reporting year, Jamestown had 964 full-time undergraduates. Minnesota-Crookston had 1,006 full-time undergraduates for that same school year. Minnesota State Mankato had the top enrollment in the league for 2021-2022 with nearly 10,000 full-time undergraduates.

The NSIC has a recent history of transitioning teams from the NAIA level to NCAA Division II, adding the University of Mary, the University of Sioux Falls and Minot State within the past two decades.

The University of Jamestown needs to have an invitation from a Division II conference before it can apply for NCAA membership. Applications are due to the NCAA by the start of February for a university to start provisional membership for the 2024-2025 school year. The NCAA membership committee reviews and approves all applications usually in the summer.

[zimmy21]

The more that time goes on, the less likely I feel it is but I could be wrong. Like Laker said, what will the North Star schools do? Some of them may be favorable to Jamestown

[CollegeFBGuy]

Thanks IceboxDragon! I appreciate you posting that

[oldyellaHer69]

Jimmies lose again 17-10 to Hastings. I’d say they have secured the bid to the NSIC

[Barndog]

So they have a nice new football complex but I have heard the field turf is hard and slick

[Iowacoo]

I apologize if discussed earlier in the thread. I’m assuming Morningside, northwestern , or Grand View wouldnt have any interest in moving up to the D2 level? All would seem to be a better fit . All three have NAIA to 10 ranked football programs and overall competitive athletic departments . Des Moines and Sioux City are metro areas and Northwestern seems to have great financial support. What is the advantage for Jamestown to make the move? Seems like a really small school that would have to spend a lot more money on athletics.

[vikingfaithful]

Could Jamestown want to leave the GPAC to cut down on those long trips to Nebraska and Iowa, hard to build rivalries at long distance, after all the closest competitor is Dakota Wesleyan University in Mitchell SD. They give scholarships in NAIA. How much more cost involved in D2? Yes, there would be long road trips in NSIC, but also much shorter ones as well against more local competition. Am I nuts?

[zimmy21]

Could Jamestown want to leave the GPAC to cut down on those long trips to Nebraska and Iowa, hard to build rivalries at long distance, after all the closest competitor is Dakota Wesleyan University in Mitchell SD. They give scholarships in NAIA. How much more cost involved in D2? Yes, there would be long road trips in NSIC, but also much shorter ones as well against more local competition. Am I nuts?

It's not nuts to want security for the conference, it is nuts to want to bring in a 2nd Crookston for most sports.
We just got the chance to not get damaged by 0-11 football programs on our SOS and now we are going to invite a school in to take it's place?

[Runnin' Cat]

Could Jamestown want to leave the GPAC to cut down on those long trips to Nebraska and Iowa, hard to build rivalries at long distance, after all the closest competitor is Dakota Wesleyan University in Mitchell SD. They give scholarships in NAIA. How much more cost involved in D2? Yes, there would be long road trips in NSIC, but also much shorter ones as well against more local competition. Am I nuts?

What do scholarships really cost? It is an accounting item. And if a school gives the full limit of 36 scholarships, they have the equivalent of 64 student athletes paying full pop.

The accounting part of things is the key. There is no transfer of funds as far as I know.

[laker]

I apologize if discussed earlier in the thread. I’m assuming Morningside, northwestern , or Grand View wouldnt have any interest in moving up to the D2 level? All would seem to be a better fit . All three have NAIA to 10 ranked football programs and overall competitive athletic departments . Des Moines and Sioux City are metro areas and Northwestern seems to have great financial support. What is the advantage for Jamestown to make the move? Seems like a really small school that would have to spend a lot more money on athletics.

Morningside left the D2 NCC because they were the bottom feeder. Now they have been national champions and enjoy their success. Talking to one of their coaches pre-Covid, he said that they have zero interest in joining the NSIC. However, I suppose things could change- but the three schools that you mentioned probably are more interested in continued success than moving to D2.

[zimmy21]

I apologize if discussed earlier in the thread. I’m assuming Morningside, northwestern , or Grand View wouldnt have any interest in moving up to the D2 level? All would seem to be a better fit . All three have NAIA to 10 ranked football programs and overall competitive athletic departments . Des Moines and Sioux City are metro areas and Northwestern seems to have great financial support. What is the advantage for Jamestown to make the move? Seems like a really small school that would have to spend a lot more money on athletics.

The understanding is that they have no interest in leaving NAIA at this time

[Tech Boys]

WITH WALDORF DEPARTURE, TIMELINE TIGHTENS FOR VCSU

https://www.newsdakota.com/2023/09/1...tens-for-vcsu/