Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[debergfan]

To my knowledge, no other NSIC school has JV teams for NCAA eligible sports. The NSIC and the NCAA have scholarship limits that are a lot tighter than the NAIA, so I can't see JV players getting athletic aid. I am sure there will still be creative academic/need based aid that will be used (as all schools do).

It's difficult to manage unless the JV team is a club team and not listed on the official Division II roster. Some D2 programs do it, but that limits the number of games the varsity team can play. Division II allows only one roster, so if the maximum number of games is 20 for water polo, the varsity team can only play 15 if the JV team plays 5. Hope that makes sense!

I was a little shocked by Jamestown to see them drop NAIA for D2 when they need the enrollment. I don't see how men's soccer and men's volleyball survives.

[SW_Mustang]

Jamestown could keep JV if they wanted too - they just wouldn't have anyone in the NSIC to play. Given how NSIC volleyball works - I don't know if keeping the program makes any sense from a competitive standpoint. Typically the point of JV is to develop underclassmen who don't get a chance to play, but the NSIC plays a lot of underclassmen in volleyball. Aside from the anecdote, pulling juniors off the JV team to play against juniors who have two years of varsity experience in the NSIC just isn't a winning combination.

The only real reason to keep it is if revenue from enrollment offsets the cost of running the program - and even then it might not be worth it. I'd look to Jamestown to cut the JV program.

[SW_Mustang]

It's difficult to manage unless the JV team is a club team and not listed on the official Division II roster. Some D2 programs do it, but that limits the number of games the varsity team can play. Division II allows only one roster, so if the maximum number of games is 20 for water polo, the varsity team can only play 15 if the JV team plays 5. Hope that makes sense!

I was a little shocked by Jamestown to see them drop NAIA for D2 when they need the enrollment. I don't see how men's soccer and men's volleyball survives.

EDIT: Misread your post - my point is moot. Carry on!

[zimmy21]

Out of pure curiosity, are there any schools in the NSIC that have club level Men's Soccer squads?

[SW_Mustang]

Out of pure curiosity, are there any schools in the NSIC that have club level Men's Soccer squads?

Looks like Winona and Duluth might. Some of the MIAC schools do, as does the U of M.

I'd imagine they'd play MCAC too.

[zimmy21]

Looks like Winona and Duluth might. Some of the MIAC schools do, as does the U of M.

I'd imagine they'd play MCAC too.

I see MSU has a Club Soccer team. Plays against the U and mostly D3 schools. Must not be sponsored by the school as they use a Google website.

I see Minot has a club soccer team listed on their athletics page, who's schedule includes Augie and Wayne.

I wonder what kind of sport a school could add alongside soccer that's cheap to accommodate Title IX? Lacrosse? I know CSP has it

[MSUMavMan2009]

To my knowledge, no other NSIC school has JV teams for NCAA eligible sports. The NSIC and the NCAA have scholarship limits that are a lot tighter than the NAIA, so I can't see JV players getting athletic aid. I am sure there will still be creative academic/need based aid that will be used (as all schools do).

Augustana plays a JV baseball schedule. It’s not posted on the website, but it’s exactly who you would expect: small enrollment schools from the region.

[vikingfaithful]

I don't think that's true anymore. I believe they ended that like 5 years ago.

That's what I thought as well. Not a heavy schedule at 14 games.

2025 Junior Varsity Baseball Schedule - Augustana University Athletics

[Purple Mav Man]

JV rosters are enrollment boosters (not saying that as a bad thing by any means). You notice when looking at the schedules what they tend to all have in common. It’s similar to intramurals/club sports versus other schools in most cases. But also great for people who want to keep playing and stay competitive while going to school. Can also provide structure for some who still need that in order to be a successful student, as well.

[vikingfaithful]

JV rosters are enrollment boosters (not saying that as a bad thing by any means). You notice when looking at the schedules what they tend to all have in common. It’s similar to intramurals/club sports versus other schools in most cases. But also great for people who want to keep playing and stay competitive while going to school. Can also provide structure for some who still need that in order to be a successful student, as well.

Are these JV players on the regular team that get no playing time?

[Purple Mav Man]

Are these JV players on the regular team that get no playing time?

Typically no. Certainly can’t speak for all schools and how they handle it, but it is usually a separate roster completely.

[crixus]

There was a lot of dislike for Jamestown earlier in this thread and it's inspired me to root for them when they begin D2 play this season. And even though orange is my least favorite color I say...Go Jimmies!

[oldyellaHer69]

There was a lot of dislike for Jamestown earlier in this thread and it's inspired to root for them when they begin D2 play this season. And even though orange is my least favorite color I say...Go Jimmies!

#JimmiePride #ChopAndCarry

[crixus]

#JimmiePride #ChopAndCarry

Thank you. I'll put those hash tags to good use this coming season. Any school that honored Louis L'Amour with a PhD is alright by me. Jamestown's hometown literary hero. I love westerns and his books are my favorite in that genre.

[SW_Mustang]

I see MSU has a Club Soccer team. Plays against the U and mostly D3 schools. Must not be sponsored by the school as they use a Google website.

I see Minot has a club soccer team listed on their athletics page, who's schedule includes Augie and Wayne.

I wonder what kind of sport a school could add alongside soccer that's cheap to accommodate Title IX? Lacrosse? I know CSP has it

They're recognized - it's on the club list: List Of Groups

Most schools don't give real estate to club sports on the athletic website since they don't usually fall under the jurisdiction of the athletic department.

It would be a bear of a project but they could add men's soccer as a varsity sport like St. Cloud. That would be an awful travel schedule though.