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Originally posted by Wallst View PostJimmy, great write up. You did UNK and the MIAA right. Impressive work on your end. I have not seen Western Colorado play, but I agree with your assessment. I think UNK gets worn down playing at 7000 feet. They are a good team but lack rotational depth. I think that will catch up to them later in the game. As a Pitt fan, one thing they burned us on several times was the deep ball. It's actually not really a deep ball, it just looks it because the safties start cheating up and stacking the box and get caught looking into the backfield. When that starts to happen about once every 12 plays Davis will shot put one to either his FB or TE who faked getting the handoff or slipped off his block and went up the seam. It can be a mental killer if Western is bottling up the run and then they score 6 on a pass. If you can get a lead and make Davis a passer UNK is toast.
Bottom line, if Western can play assignment D and keep it close I think they win in the 4th quarter due to elevation. If their ends and safties don't play sound assignment football it could be a long day.
Do any RMAC teams run an option?
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Originally posted by Wallst View PostJimmy, great write up. You did UNK and the MIAA right. Impressive work on your end. I have not seen Western Colorado play, but I agree with your assessment. I think UNK gets worn down playing at 7000 feet. They are a good team but lack rotational depth. I think that will catch up to them later in the game. As a Pitt fan, one thing they burned us on several times was the deep ball. It's actually not really a deep ball, it just looks it because the safties start cheating up and stacking the box and get caught looking into the backfield. When that starts to happen about once every 12 plays Davis will shot put one to either his FB or TE who faked getting the handoff or slipped off his block and went up the seam. It can be a mental killer if Western is bottling up the run and then they score 6 on a pass. If you can get a lead and make Davis a passer UNK is toast.
Bottom line, if Western can play assignment D and keep it close I think they win in the 4th quarter due to elevation. If their ends and safties don't play sound assignment football it could be a long day.
Do any RMAC teams run an option?
To really attack and beat the option you need physicality up front to take the fullback away, and then have a lot of lateral speed to stretch the play out. Of course you need to play assignment football but if you're losing your one on one battles assignments matter very little.
Back in my days of following Air Force the teams that really were able to do these things made their offense look rather silly. I don't see UNK being made to look silly and I don't think the game is close enough in the 4th for the elevation to matter.
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Jimmy, great write up. You did UNK and the MIAA right. Impressive work on your end. I have not seen Western Colorado play, but I agree with your assessment. I think UNK gets worn down playing at 7000 feet. They are a good team but lack rotational depth. I think that will catch up to them later in the game. As a Pitt fan, one thing they burned us on several times was the deep ball. It's actually not really a deep ball, it just looks it because the safties start cheating up and stacking the box and get caught looking into the backfield. When that starts to happen about once every 12 plays Davis will shot put one to either his FB or TE who faked getting the handoff or slipped off his block and went up the seam. It can be a mental killer if Western is bottling up the run and then they score 6 on a pass. If you can get a lead and make Davis a passer UNK is toast.
Bottom line, if Western can play assignment D and keep it close I think they win in the 4th quarter due to elevation. If their ends and safties don't play sound assignment football it could be a long day.
Do any RMAC teams run an option?
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Originally posted by AngeloFan View Post
That is in the D2 bi laws.
They can even change the seeding within a region to reduce travel costs. They did with Tarelton and Commerce in 2019
In 2019, the DII football committee changed the seeding process. The changes were in the No. 5-7 seeds, where the committee has the flexibility to move those teams out of region or in-region to a closer destination to cut down on flights. For example, the traditional No. 2 vs. 7 and No. 4 vs. 5 regional matchups could become No. 2 vs. 5 and No. 4 vs. 7 if the travel plans make more sense. For more on those changes, click here for our interview with the committee.
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Originally posted by loper legionnaire View PostGreetings Mountaineer fans and RMAC posters! Happy to have a reason to post on the RMAC board again!
Personally, I'm looking forward to this matchup and am glad we got shifted to SR4 rather than having a rematch with Northwest Missouri. Our regular season meeting was an absolute trainwreck that I didn't want to experience again.
A little background on the Lopers. This is a team on #TheRise under head coach Josh Lynn. He took over a team that had gone 0-11 and 1-10 in the two years prior to his arrival and has made remarkable progress in short order, going 3-8, 5-6, 7-5 (Mineral Water Bowl win), 2-0 (COVID year) and now 9-2.
This year's UNK team is led by Colorado native QB TJ Davis, who does a masterful job running the team's modern option offense. He's an extremely shifty runner who is dangerous in the open field. And this year, he's taken big strides as a passer. With teams selling out to stop the run, he's made some big plays in the passing game and is actually the most efficient passer in D2.
The Loper defense has been streaky this year. They've played well at times, but they've also had games where they simply could not get off the field. This was most apparent in the two losses, where they couldn't stop Fort Hays in the second half or Northwest Missouri the entire game.
As is usually the case, I expect this game to come down to Davis. If he has a big game, the Lopers will be in good shape. If Western can slow him down and force him into mistakes - especially in the passing game - UNK will be in trouble.
Here are some links for reference if you want to learn more about how the Lopers stack up.
UNK Schedule/Results- https://lopers.com/sports/football/schedule
Team Statistics- https://lopers.com/sports/football/stats/2021-22
MIAA Stat Comparison- https://themiaa.com/stats.aspx?path=football&year=2021
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Greetings Mountaineer fans and RMAC posters! Happy to have a reason to post on the RMAC board again!
Personally, I'm looking forward to this matchup and am glad we got shifted to SR4 rather than having a rematch with Northwest Missouri. Our regular season meeting was an absolute trainwreck that I didn't want to experience again.
A little background on the Lopers. This is a team on #TheRise under head coach Josh Lynn. He took over a team that had gone 0-11 and 1-10 in the two years prior to his arrival and has made remarkable progress in short order, going 3-8, 5-6, 7-5 (Mineral Water Bowl win), 2-0 (COVID year) and now 9-2.
This year's UNK team is led by Colorado native QB TJ Davis, who does a masterful job running the team's modern option offense. He's an extremely shifty runner who is dangerous in the open field. And this year, he's taken big strides as a passer. With teams selling out to stop the run, he's made some big plays in the passing game and is actually the most efficient passer in D2.
The Loper defense has been streaky this year. They've played well at times, but they've also had games where they simply could not get off the field. This was most apparent in the two losses, where they couldn't stop Fort Hays in the second half or Northwest Missouri the entire game.
As is usually the case, I expect this game to come down to Davis. If he has a big game, the Lopers will be in good shape. If Western can slow him down and force him into mistakes - especially in the passing game - UNK will be in trouble.
Here are some links for reference if you want to learn more about how the Lopers stack up.
UNK Schedule/Results- https://lopers.com/sports/football/schedule
Team Statistics- https://lopers.com/sports/football/stats/2021-22
MIAA Stat Comparison- https://themiaa.com/stats.aspx?path=football&year=2021
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Are you saying they win their playoff game then? Surely they should have no problem doing so with an amazing defense that held Pueblo to 7 points. How do you think the game goes?
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Originally posted by Packfootball View PostStill trying to figure this out. Central Washington traveling to meet NW Missouri out of region and Kearney traveling out of region to meet Western. I thinking $$$$. Should be a good game for Western and Kearney. But Central Washington against NW MO.? Asking a lot for a team that has to travel half way across the country to play. But I guess that beats playing at the highest elevation of any college football field.
They can even change the seeding within a region to reduce travel costs. They did with Tarelton and Commerce in 2019
In 2019, the DII football committee changed the seeding process. The changes were in the No. 5-7 seeds, where the committee has the flexibility to move those teams out of region or in-region to a closer destination to cut down on flights. For example, the traditional No. 2 vs. 7 and No. 4 vs. 5 regional matchups could become No. 2 vs. 5 and No. 4 vs. 7 if the travel plans make more sense. For more on those changes, click here for our interview with the committee.Last edited by AngeloFan; 11-14-2021, 09:16 PM.
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Originally posted by Turbonium View Post
You're now seemingly just looking to argue for some reason.
Have fun with that.
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You're now seemingly just looking to argue for some reason.
Have fun with that.
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Originally posted by Turbonium View Post
If people weren't sharing opinions message boards would be so much fun wouldn't they? Pueblo did what they did all year, they had key penalties, unforced mistakes at inopportune times, and missed FGs. Western simply by no means looks like a top 15 team in the country or a team that would normally have a home playoff game in SR4. Disagree if you'd like, that's simply an opinion from watching a lot of D2 football. If you take said opinion as arrogance it sounds more like a you problem than a me problem.
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If people weren't sharing opinions message boards would be so much fun wouldn't they? Pueblo did what they did all year, they had key penalties, unforced mistakes at inopportune times, and missed FGs. Western simply by no means looks like a top 15 team in the country or a team that would normally have a home playoff game in SR4. Disagree if you'd like, that's simply an opinion from watching a lot of D2 football. If you take said opinion as arrogance it sounds more like a you problem than a me problem.
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Originally posted by Turbonium View Post
Yawn. I'm going to guess you didn't watch the game, or much of the struggles Pueblo had on offense the entire season.
I've seen some very talented defenses in D2, I sort of expected Western to have made that step towards being a dominating defense. That simply was not the case.Last edited by Gridiron Bobby; 11-14-2021, 08:36 PM.
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