2018 NSIC Basbeall

[Hornetfan]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

This bracket makes absolutely no sense
How did Augustana get the 5th seed in the region with 44 wins, when they were #1 in the country at the end of April?

Also, how did St Cloud get in with 29 wins when they were 3rd in the regular season and got beat by Minot in the tournament?

Minot had 36 wins, regular season title and got 3rd in the conference tournament that should have been more than enough to get in.

Conference standings and national rankings don't mean anything in regional rankings.

[laker]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

This bracket makes absolutely no sense
How did Augustana get the 5th seed in the region with 44 wins, when they were #1 in the country at the end of April?

Also, how did St Cloud get in with 29 wins when they were 3rd in the regular season and got beat by Minot in the tournament?

Minot had 36 wins, regular season title and got 3rd in the conference tournament that should have been more than enough to get in.

In basketball, the regular season title seems to mean something. Evidently it must not in baseball.

[simple as a $3 bill]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

This bracket makes absolutely no sense
How did Augustana get the 5th seed in the region with 44 wins, when they were #1 in the country at the end of April?

Also, how did St Cloud get in with 29 wins when they were 3rd in the regular season and got beat by Minot in the tournament?

Minot had 36 wins, regular season title and got 3rd in the conference tournament that should have been more than enough to get in.

Weak schedule. Part of it is the NSIC's fault for scheduling the traditionally stronger teams against each other and the weaker teams against each other with not as many games against the other group. Then they went 1-7 vs Pittsburgh St and Kearney early in the season, and SCSU was 2-0 vs then in the regular season.

[Randy]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

When the first rankings came out 3 weeks ago, I was surprised that CentralMO with around 10 losses was #1 and Augie with 2 losses was #2. But when I examined the spreadsheet published with the rankings, the Mules had a significantly higher SOS and had played 12 games against regionally ranked opponents compared to Augie's 4. Augie also had played 6 or 7 games against non D2 opponents while CentralMO had played 0. It was clear that Augie was being punished for not playing a tough enough schedule.

Upon further review, Augie record for this process is 39-8 so they only played 5 non D2 opponents.

[Hornetfan]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

When the first rankings came out 3 weeks ago, I was surprised that CentralMO with around 10 losses was #1 and Augie with 2 losses was #2. But when I examined the spreadsheet published with the rankings, the Mules had a significantly higher SOS and had played 12 games against regionally ranked opponents compared to Augie's 4. Augie also had played 6 or 7 games against non D2 opponents while CentralMO had played 0. It was clear that Augie was being punished for not playing a tough enough schedule.

Playing a D2 schedule seems to be very important in the eyes of the baseball committee. I understand it is easier for the MIAA to get non-con D2 games due to our location but part of that is an effort to schedule D2 games. The MIAA only played two games against non-D2 schools this year according to the NCAA web site where as the NSIC played 32 non-D2 games and the GAC played 27 non-D2 games.

[laker]

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Playing a D2 schedule seems to be very important in the eyes of the baseball committee. I understand it is easier for the MIAA to get non-con D2 games due to our location but part of that is an effort to schedule D2 games. The MIAA only played two games against non-D2 schools this year according to the NCAA web site where as the NSIC played 32 non-D2 games and the GAC played 27 non-D2 games.

Part of the problem is that once NSIC teams come back from down South they have no D2 teams that they can play, but plenty of local D3 teams in Minnesota and NAIA teams in the Dakotas. For MSU, Bethany is right in town and Gustavus Adolphus is a dozen miles away. They used to play them midweek but with this weather they didn't play them at all this year. Heck, they couldn't even play all of their conference games.

[Randy]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

This bracket makes absolutely no sense
How did Augustana get the 5th seed in the region with 44 wins, when they were #1 in the country at the end of April?

Also, how did St Cloud get in with 29 wins when they were 3rd in the regular season and got beat by Minot in the tournament?

Minot had 36 wins, regular season title and got 3rd in the conference tournament that should have been more than enough to get in.

Some numbers for consideration from the NCAA (includes the 8 regional teams & Minot):

D2 W/L %
.830 (39-8) Augie
.712 (37-15) Central Mo
.686 (35-16) Southern Ark
.683 (28-13) St Cloud
.680 (34-16) Minot
.648 (35-19) Central Ok
.635 (33-19) Pittsburg St
.622 (38-17) Oklahoma Bapt
.600 (33-22) Emporia St

D2 Strength of Schedule
.540 Pittsburg St
.535 Central Mo
.527 Emporia St
.518 Central Ok
.517 Southern Ark
.499 Oklahoma Bapt
.497 St Cloud
.488 Minot
.473 Augie

It's easy to see why the SOS is so low for the NSIC teams when you see the number of games played against D2 teams at .500 or better
41 Pittsburg St (24-17)
38 Central Mo (25-13) & Central Ok (21-17)
37 Southern Ark (24-13)
35 Emporia St (18-17)
28 Oklahoma Bapt (14-14)
23 Minot (10-13) the only 1 of the 9 to finish under .500
20 St Cloud (12-8)
19 Augie (14-5)

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FINAL SCORE: Augustana advances in the NCAA Central Regional with a 4-2 win over Emporia State! The Vikings play either Central Missouri or St. Cloud State on Saturday at 7 p.m.

[Kiss My Ass]

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Start the bus....Central Missouri over St. Cloud by 2 touchdowns at the half.

[Shanghai Mule]

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Final - Central Missouri 15 St. Cloud 0. With the game hopelessly out of reach in the 9th inning, the St. Cloud coach had his pitchers going to the plate to pinch hit for the position players. Hey, the coach is a realist with a sense of humor. It was just one of "those" games. St. Cloud can stay in it with a victory today over Southern Arkansas. Go Huskies.

[laker]

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[Shanghai Mule]

Re: 2018 NSIC Basbeall

Way to go Augie: 6 - 5 winner over #1 seed Florida Southern. Vikings looking good as they continue to advance in the winners bracket.

[laker]

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Congrats Augie! Quite a marathon game.