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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI've actually being trying to think about this for IUP's Dom Keyes. He sat out this year on suspension.
Freshmen year: UPJ
Sophomore year: Harford CC
'third year' ... Redshirt at IUP
'fourth year' ... suspended (from basketball season) at IUP
2019-20:
Does he have 1 year left or two?
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostI was counting Boswell when I came up with 12. Now that Saben is leaving, that would puts us at 11. I no Crutch would go through the season with 12 give or take but in Ben's two years at the helm we've had 14 or 15 rostered players. There is recruiting work to do but I don't think it is absolutely critical that we have 15. I'd be ok at 13 provided they were all quality players.
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I was counting Boswell when I came up with 12. Now that Saben is leaving, that would puts us at 11. I no Crutch would go through the season with 12 give or take but in Ben's two years at the helm we've had 14 or 15 rostered players. There is recruiting work to do but I don't think it is absolutely critical that we have 15. I'd be ok at 13 provided they were all quality players.
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Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View PostNo surprise here...
Keegan Saban is transferring...If you're a sophomore at WL, and you're not in their "two deep", better to move on. Once French became playable this year, he was odd man out.
Not sure if we'll see any other attrition...
They lose 4 seniors and Saban and Ariel Watson...
My take is that he just didn't score enough. In 9 straight games early in the season he got 10+ minutes and never scored more than 4 points during that stretch. Hard to be a guard (unless you are the point guard) on WLU and not be able to score. Don't get many minutes that way...and it looks like that is what happened. When French came back his fate was sealed.Last edited by boatcapt; 03-21-2019, 01:39 PM.
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Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostI've actually being trying to think about this for IUP's Dom Keyes. He sat out this year on suspension.
Freshmen year: UPJ
Sophomore year: Harford CC
'third year' ... Redshirt at IUP
'fourth year' ... suspended (from basketball season) at IUP
2019-20:
Does he have 1 year left or two?
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Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
No surprise here...
Keegan Saban is transferring...If you're a sophomore at WL, and you're not in their "two deep", better to move on. Once French became playable this year, he was odd man out.
Not sure if we'll see any other attrition...
They lose 4 seniors and Saban and Ariel Watson...
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Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball
Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostGood points. As I understand it, Your eligbility clock in D1 is a running clock starting when you enter college and ends 5 years later (excluding medical RS). . D2 is based on semesters that you actually attended college; it ends once you have attended 8 fall/spring semesters AND you have used up your 4 years of playing eligibility (5 yrs with redshirt) . So if you are attending classes but not sitting on the bench, it is like a redshirt year as it counts against your 5 years.
The NCAA is all over in their interpretation of what "compete" means. Amedro was at App State for two full years which should have burned four semesters. Somehow the NCAA interpreted that for at least one or two, he didn't compete so they didn't count toward his 10 semesters. Net effect was that he was able to sit (non-compete) the spring of his junior year and use his 10th semester (and 4th on-field season) during the fall of his senior year.
WLU also had a WR who came in after two years at a JUCO and was only able to get one on field season when it seemed like he should have had two. I also recall a TE at one of the PSAC schools who got ruled ineligible by the NCAA and then after reconsideration (appeal?) they said he WAS eligible.
Trying to figure out NCAA eligibility rules and decisions is much like trying to figure out the secret NCAA playoff selection formula. It leads to nothing but gray hair, an ulcer and sclerosis of the liver!!!
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostGood points. As I understand it, Your eligbility clock in D1 is a running clock starting when you enter college and ends 5 years later (excluding medical RS). . D2 is based on semesters that you actually attended college; it ends once you have attended 8 fall/spring semesters AND you have used up your 4 years of playing eligibility (5 yrs with redshirt) . So if you are attending classes but not sitting on the bench, it is like a redshirt year as it counts against your 5 years.
I've actually being trying to think about this for IUP's Dom Keyes. He sat out this year on suspension.
Freshmen year: UPJ
Sophomore year: Harford CC
'third year' ... Redshirt at IUP
'fourth year' ... suspended (from basketball season) at IUP
2019-20:
Does he have 1 year left or two?
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostWe talk about redshirt in the same way it applies in D1. DII rules are different. Net/net is roughly the same but they are technically different and every now and then the rules can be manipulated to get an "extra" year (i.e. Amedro "sat out" the spring semester between his Jr and Sr year and used that semester of eligibility during the first semester of his Sr year.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostNot 100% sure, but I think it is because he is not technically "redshirting" in the traditional sense. WJU is making him sit out a year away from basketball due to transfer restriction.
Alessandro is a traditional redshirt situation.
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Not 100% sure, but I think it is because he is not technically "redshirting" in the traditional sense. WJU is making him sit out a year away from basketball due to transfer restriction.
Alessandro is a traditional redshirt situation.
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I'm not an basketball expert by any streatch of the imagination. But I have refered two players to WLU (one under the Crutch regime and one under Ben). BOTH times I got a reply from Ben within 30 minutes saying he had watched the guys film and wanted to talk with him. Neither player ended up going to WLU (one took a low level D1 offer and the other cat apparently didn't have the grades to qualify and is now flipping burgers). But it's just illustrative of how WLU operates. Ben doesn't know me from Adam but he was more than willing to take a look at and talk to any player from anywhere if he thought they might help the program.
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