PSAC WEST

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Updated Men's Standings ... should be quite the exciting week.

WEST	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK
IUP*(1)	18-2	23-2	W5
Mercyhurst*	15-5	17-7	W7
Pitt-Johnstown*	14-6	20-7	L1
California*	14-6	18-8	W3
Gannon*	12-9	13-12	L1
Slippery Rock*	10-10	14-12	W3
Clarion	4-17	5-22	L3
Seton Hill	3-17	4-20	L6
Edinboro	2-18	5-19	L15
EAST	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK
Shippensburg*(1)	16-4	20-6	L2
East Stroudsburg*	13-7	17-8	W7
West Chester*	12-8	18-8	W3
Millersville	10-10	13-13	L1
Lock Haven	9-11	12-12	L1
Shepherd	9-11	13-13	L1
Kutztown	9-11	11-15	W1
Bloomsburg	7-14	10-17	W1
Mansfield	5-16	6-20	L5

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Two dates remain (for most). Updated WOMEN'S Standings:

WEST	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK
IUP*(1)	19-1	24-2	W3
Gannon*(2)	17-4	21-6	W2
California*	13-7	19-7	W2
Edinboro*	13-7	15-9	W1
UPJ*(5)	10-10	15-11	W2
Seton Hill	7-13	13-13	L3
Mercyhurst	7-13	7-19	L3
Slippery Rock	6-14	8-18	L1
Clarion	2-19	4-23	L6
EAST	PSAC	OVERALL	STREAK
Shippensburg*	16-4	19-7	W6
East Stroudsburg*	14-6	18-8	W4
Kutztown*	14-6	17-9	W3
Shepherd*	13-7	19-7	L1
Lock Haven*(5)	10-10	13-12	W2
Bloomsburg*(6)	9-12	12-13	L2
West Chester	6-14	8-17	L5
Millersville	5-15	8-17	L1
Mansfield	1-20	3-24	L16

[IUP24]

It's a crock but it is what it is.

Joe said in the paper this week he considers winning the West or East title to be a much bigger accomplishment than winning a 3-game tournament.

The obvious danger for many is if you'd get 3 non-ranked teams to win the PSAC, MEC and CIAA tournaments. Automatic bids.


Imagine Lock Haven, Glenville State and Virginia Union winning -- and thus knocking out three teams who deserved a bid. It would be sickening ... but, it happens.

The CIAA is famous for it. The PSAC is generally won by one of the favorites.

Cinderella isn't a great story for the team being told they are no longer welcome.

I feel like this is a year where the two PSAC favorites won't win it. I could see IUP or Ship losing and then Cal, UPJ, East Stroudsburg, or Mercyhurst winning the PSAC tournament to get an automatic bid. Not that any of those are bad teams. They're all certainly quality teams and if they got hot would be a team you wouldn't want to necessarily play in a one and done in March.


It always feels like the years everybody thinks the CIAA will be crazy, it ends up being chalk. We've spent weeks predicting which middle of the road team in that league will win the tournament. I'm expecting it to be mostly chalk there.

I couldn't tell you about the MEC tournament. It looks like WL and Fairmont should be locks. Charleston maybe. WVSU on the fringe a bit. If a team out of nowhere wins that league, it could cost WVSU or Charleston a bid.

[IUPalum]

I was under the impression you could only play your grad year elswhere

Does he show up at Christian Brothers?

[bballfan03]

That could just mean he's graduating but he still has a grad year left to play.

Are you saying he's not going to play next year?

I was under the impression you could only play your grad year elswhere

[Golden89]

That could just mean he's graduating but he still has a grad year left to play.

Are you saying he's not going to play next year?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Most teams in the league are capable of a hot night or two, which is why I've never thought a tournament should determine a conference championship.

It's a crock but it is what it is.

Joe said in the paper this week he considers winning the West or East title to be a much bigger accomplishment than winning a 3-game tournament.

The obvious danger for many is if you'd get 3 non-ranked teams to win the PSAC, MEC and CIAA tournaments. Automatic bids.


Imagine Lock Haven, Glenville State and Virginia Union winning -- and thus knocking out three teams who deserved a bid. It would be sickening ... but, it happens.

The CIAA is famous for it. The PSAC is generally won by one of the favorites.

Cinderella isn't a great story for the team being told they are no longer welcome.

[Ship69]

Lock Haven has the potential to cause havoc in the PSAC tournament. I like Lock Haven's experience especially at the guard spots.

Slippery Rock lost its "culture" with the player revolt against KR. No surprise at all that SRU underachieves and is inconsistent. Having said that, Gannon is always just one "3-25 from 3 point range" game away from getting beat at home.

I don't see any issue with IUP thumping SHU. Past SHU teams had talent - this SHU team not so much. Davis will jack it an build his career personal stats, but there is little fight left in almost any 4-19 team.

Manchel has perfected a match up zone defense, not a triangle and two. However, as long as IUP holds home court, this is IUP's 'ship.

Most teams in the league are capable of a hot night or two, which is why I've never thought a tournament should determine a conference championship.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I like Lock Havens guard play also. Lot of growth from their freshmen guard Washington. Fun to watch. They got the point guard from Seton Hill, Luquana. Washington and Luquana play both sides of the ball. Both are quick. Saw the game against Shippensbur. My buddies son, Sleva plays for the Raiders. Great game!

As long as we don't have another game like we did against Gannon we should beat the Grifins hands down. It always makes me nervous to go to that little yellow shoe box. They seem to get the calls at home.

Their point guard play will be the problem. All D-3 type players. No explosiveness or ability to create. Last game i saw they had the kid from Montour running the point. The Australian kid is probably their best bet. Who knows who's on deck for the game tomorrow. Heard the coach is a little off his rocker. Davis will jack for sure. And he will play the whole game hunting for points, padding stats and playing no defense. Can someone make the call when he's in the lane too early on a free throw. He doesn't box out because he wants the stat. He'll end with one foul and that will be when their down by 15 in the final minutes and he's still hunting points. And those referees will give him those off the wrong foot, floppy trashy move calls. If we can exploit the side he's on and get into their bigs they'll foul out and we win this in their gym by 40.

An insider told my daughter that their coach called our athletic department asking to keep the camera guys away from his huddles next season. I guess he was unhappy about the professional coverage at the KCAC. He should be worried about his record. Nobody needs to spy on their plays to beat them.

Considering the lopsided calls that I think will happen we win by 14. If they don't give Davis all the rag doll calls we win by 22.

I really liked No. 33 Drew Green from SH in the game they played up here. He's a 6'5" true freshman who they play at Guard and Forward. He's a legit D2 player and should really evolve over the next couple years. I'd be interested in him when he transfers. Remember West Liberty landed last year's prized SH transfer in guard Malik McKinney.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

So depressing note for Gannon.. Webb is athletically a junior, but is being celebrated for senior night tomorrow night.

That could just mean he's graduating but he still has a grad year left to play.

Are you saying he's not going to play next year?

[Golden89]

Lock Haven has the potential to cause havoc in the PSAC tournament. I like Lock Haven's experience especially at the guard spots.

Slippery Rock lost its "culture" with the player revolt against KR. No surprise at all that SRU underachieves and is inconsistent. Having said that, Gannon is always just one "3-25 from 3 point range" game away from getting beat at home.

I don't see any issue with IUP thumping SHU. Past SHU teams had talent - this SHU team not so much. Davis will jack it an build his career personal stats, but there is little fight left in almost any 4-19 team.

Manchel has perfected a match up zone defense, not a triangle and two. However, as long as IUP holds home court, this is IUP's 'ship.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I like Lock Havens guard play also. Lot of growth from their freshmen guard Washington. Fun to watch. They got the point guard from Seton Hill, Luquana. Washington and Luquana play both sides of the ball. Both are quick. Saw the game against Shippensbur. My buddies son, Sleva plays for the Raiders. Great game!

As long as we don't have another game like we did against Gannon we should beat the Grifins hands down. It always makes me nervous to go to that little yellow shoe box. They seem to get the calls at home.

Their point guard play will be the problem. All D-3 type players. No explosiveness or ability to create. Last game i saw they had the kid from Montour running the point. The Australian kid is probably their best bet. Who knows who's on deck for the game tomorrow. Heard the coach is a little off his rocker. Davis will jack for sure. And he will play the whole game hunting for points, padding stats and playing no defense. Can someone make the call when he's in the lane too early on a free throw. He doesn't box out because he wants the stat. He'll end with one foul and that will be when their down by 15 in the final minutes and he's still hunting points. And those referees will give him those off the wrong foot, floppy trashy move calls. If we can exploit the side he's on and get into their bigs they'll foul out and we win this in their gym by 40.

An insider told my daughter that their coach called our athletic department asking to keep the camera guys away from his huddles next season. I guess he was unhappy about the professional coverage at the KCAC. He should be worried about his record. Nobody needs to spy on their plays to beat them.

Considering the lopsided calls that I think will happen we win by 14. If they don't give Davis all the rag doll calls we win by 22.

I usually try and stay 'nice' on the basketball side. That said ... Forget Seton Hill. I was there for the 'goon fest' and also the night they let the yellow show box become a college bar.

If the new guy wants to yap about camera's let him. He'll be gone in a year or two anyway. He was a bad hire from the start.

Tark the Shark (look it up) let them trash IUP's season two years ago by playing like street thugs.

Davis can pad his stats. He's not nearly as arrogant as his older brother was (and younger Davis is a much better player).

Here's to wishing Tom and Joe run it up.

No hard feelings, of course. LOL.

[bballfan03]

So depressing note for Gannon.. Webb is athletically a junior, but is being celebrated for senior night tomorrow night.

[gbensbball]

I like Lock Havens guard play also. Lot of growth from their freshmen guard Washington. Fun to watch. They got the point guard from Seton Hill, Luquana. Washington and Luquana play both sides of the ball. Both are quick. Saw the game against Shippensbur. My buddies son, Sleva plays for the Raiders. Great game!

As long as we don't have another game like we did against Gannon we should beat the Grifins hands down. It always makes me nervous to go to that little yellow shoe box. They seem to get the calls at home.

Their point guard play will be the problem. All D-3 type players. No explosiveness or ability to create. Last game i saw they had the kid from Montour running the point. The Australian kid is probably their best bet. Who knows who's on deck for the game tomorrow. Heard the coach is a little off his rocker. Davis will jack for sure. And he will play the whole game hunting for points, padding stats and playing no defense. Can someone make the call when he's in the lane too early on a free throw. He doesn't box out because he wants the stat. He'll end with one foul and that will be when their down by 15 in the final minutes and he's still hunting points. And those referees will give him those off the wrong foot, floppy trashy move calls. If we can exploit the side he's on and get into their bigs they'll foul out and we win this in their gym by 40.

An insider told my daughter that their coach called our athletic department asking to keep the camera guys away from his huddles next season. I guess he was unhappy about the professional coverage at the KCAC. He should be worried about his record. Nobody needs to spy on their plays to beat them.

Considering the lopsided calls that I think will happen we win by 14. If they don't give Davis all the rag doll calls we win by 22.

[PSACwatcher]

Lock Haven has the potential to cause havoc in the PSAC tournament. I like Lock Haven's experience especially at the guard spots.

Slippery Rock lost its "culture" with the player revolt against KR. No surprise at all that SRU underachieves and is inconsistent. Having said that, Gannon is always just one "3-25 from 3 point range" game away from getting beat at home.

I don't see any issue with IUP thumping SHU. Past SHU teams had talent - this SHU team not so much. Davis will jack it an build his career personal stats, but there is little fight left in almost any 4-19 team.

Manchel has perfected a match up zone defense, not a triangle and two. However, as long as IUP holds home court, this is IUP's 'ship.