PSAC WEST

[IUPalum]

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One roster left to appear. What a shocker.

That dirt bag is probably waiting for a few convicts to make bail. hahahahaha

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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One roster left to appear. What a shocker.

[IUPalum]

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A lot of new faces. Cleary has proven himself as a good recruiter with significantly less resources than others in the conference. Should be interesting to see how they come together. Liggins didn't look great on paper but turned out to be a force.

Cleary accidentally came across the Liggins kid. I can only imagine if Cleary actually coached that team up last year what they would've been. Run and gun just doesn't work against sound defensive teams.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Joe briefly recruited the Daylon Harris kid out of Gateway High School several years back.

He went out to a JUCO in Nebraska. I believe he signed with UPJ last year but ended up staying at the JUCO.

Nice player.

[Fightingscot82]

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Not impressed!

A lot of new faces. Cleary has proven himself as a good recruiter with significantly less resources than others in the conference. Should be interesting to see how they come together. Liggins didn't look great on paper but turned out to be a force.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Not impressed!

Cleary has a magic wand finding guards. We'll see how some of these guys pan out.

[IUPalum]

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Boro roster posted.

Not impressed!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Boro roster posted.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Does this group think that John Szentesy being hired as interim coach at Mansfield is a good decision?

Seems fine under the circumstance. He's been there a while and knows the challenges.

[PSAC76]

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Does this group think that John Szentesy being hired as interim coach at Mansfield is a good decision?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Quannis: You made me curious. Here's how the stats broke down last year (just for comparison sake):


Till Cobo

Minutes per game 30.6 34.4

FG% .494 .520

3PT made 29 30
3PT % .296 .429

Free Throws 142-195 73-100
FT % .728 .730

Points 640 443
PPG 21.3 14.8

Rebounds 361 291
RPG 12.0 9.7

Assists 38 89

Turnovers 58 65

Steals 40 37

Blocks 45 15


Of note in these stats, Till got to play two D3 games and a dramatically weaker non-conference schedule.

My assessment is they are both terrific players. Cobo wouldn't be a good fit in SRU's bang 'em system. Till would be a stretch in IUP's fast-paced system. Both would obviously do well anywhere they played.

Again, I think it comes down to each having a different role on their team. IUP typically doesn't have post players with gigantic stats as their offense is guard-oriented. Till's physical style is a perfect fit under Kevin Reynolds.

Give me first pick in a draft for this year ... tough call. Depends who the coach is.

I don't look for Cobo to have monster stats this year. They have way too many mouths to feed. He'll be a routine double-double but I don't see an fantasy-type stat lines. IUP has essentially 9 starters this year. Joe may need to be more therapist than coach.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Till is way better than Diaz. He can take over a game, plays very physically with emotion but sometimes too much attitude. Diaz can disappear and like many Euro bigs tends to stay away from the fray. Till should benefit from some familiarity from the refs this year and as a result may not see the foul trouble that plagued him at critical points last season. But, inquiring minds want to know, what does one have to do to be dismissed from a D1 football program?

Break "undisclosed team rules" ... that will get you every time.

"Way better" is quite the stretch. Till plays in an offense where everything centers around him. Cobo does not.

Till also wore out dramatically in the second halfs of many games last year. His conditioning needed some work this off-season.

All of that said, they are both very good players. Cobo did go 2-0 vs. Till last year.

[quannis]

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Till is way better than Diaz. He can take over a game, plays very physically with emotion but sometimes too much attitude. Diaz can disappear and like many Euro bigs tends to stay away from the fray. Till should benefit from some familiarity from the refs this year and as a result may not see the foul trouble that plagued him at critical points last season. But, inquiring minds want to know, what does one have to do to be dismissed from a D1 football program?

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Street and Smith's Preseason All-America Team(s)

First Team

- Tommy Bolte (Concord)
- Jacobo Diaz (Indiana, Pa.)
- Tim Guers (Saint Anselm)
- Beau Justice (Valdosta State)
- Adam Eberhard (Bellarmine)

Second Team

- Micah Till (Slippery Rock)
- Gage Davis (St. Cloud State)
- Kyle Monroe (Michigan Tech)
- Ryan Quaid (West Texas A&M)
- Will Vorhees (Notre Dame, Ohio)

[PSAC76]

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It sure is a tough time to leave. Smart move would more than likely be hire an interim IMHO and then a full search in March