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Sorry about that, MJ. Didn't know I was

talking about the last four. Thanks for inferring that for me. However, I was citing some facts, statistics ya know, and some observations from the game in question.

Sounds like you were at Bowie? Can I get your opinions on that one? I know a few people who were there. We could compare notes! How does a team surrender a huge lead like that? Here's a hint:no video evidence. Look at the stats. A whole lot of outliers there.

Ship and Kutztown are stretch wins for Gannon. They would have to play close to perfect games to beat those teams, and they're not there at this point, maybe never this season. However, Gannon is deeper and more skilled than ESU at every position, and that's a good equation for a road win.

[quannis]

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Sorry about that, MJ. Didn't know I was talking about the last four. Thanks for inferring that for me. However, I was citing some facts, statistics ya know, and some observations from the game in question.

Sounds like you were at Bowie? Can I get your opinions on that one? I know a few people who were there. We could compare notes! How does a team surrender a huge lead like that? Here's a hint:no video evidence. Look at the stats. A whole lot of outliers there.

Ship and Kutztown are stretch wins for Gannon. They would have to play close to perfect games to beat those teams, and they're not there at this point, maybe never this season. However, Gannon is deeper and more skilled than ESU at every position, and that's a good equation for a road win.

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One of the "circumstances" of playing Gannon is that you will be defended all over the floor, and that on the other end of the floor the opponent will have to play defense for the whole shot clock. If those circumstances get a shooter, who might not have the legs or physical attributes to defend for the whole shot clock, into foul trouble on his defensive side, that's part of the game. You have to give credit to Gannon's overall defense from the inside out, with special credit to their 3-point defense. They are very highly ranked 10 games into the season for 3-point defense. ESU is highly ranked in either 3-pointers made or attempted per game. Circumstances dictate that we give credit where credit is due!

[quannis]

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ESU's two top three-point shooters both played. Nick Giordano (2.4 threes per game) was the one who was in foul trouble -- fouling out in 14 minutes, but was largely ineffective (1/6 from downtown) when he was in the game. Marc Rodriquez (2.3 per game) played 29 minutes and was 0/2 from behind the arc. ESU's third-best three-point shooter, Krawczeniuk, a non-starter who makes 1.7 threes per game, did not play.

I'm sure that Stroud didn't have their A-game, but Gannon's defense, who was able to control the pace of the game, deserves some credit for holding Stroud over 40 points below their scoring average.

One of the "circumstances" of playing Gannon is that you will be defended all over the floor, and that on the other end of the floor the opponent will have to play defense for the whole shot clock. If those circumstances get a shooter, who might not have the legs or physical attributes to defend for the whole shot clock, into foul trouble on his defensive side, that's part of the game. You have to give credit to Gannon's overall defense from the inside out, with special credit to their 3-point defense. They are very highly ranked 10 games into the season for 3-point defense. ESU is highly ranked in either 3-pointers made or attempted per game. Circumstances dictate that we give credit where credit is due!

[Golden89]

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ESU's two top three-point shooters both played. Nick Giordano (2.4 threes per game) was the one who was in foul trouble -- fouling out in 14 minutes, but was largely ineffective (1/6 from downtown) when he was in the game. Marc Rodriquez (2.3 per game) played 29 minutes and was 0/2 from behind the arc. ESU's third-best three-point shooter, Krawczeniuk, a non-starter who makes 1.7 threes per game, did not play.

I'm sure that Stroud didn't have their A-game, but Gannon's defense, who was able to control the pace of the game, deserves some credit for holding Stroud over 40 points below their scoring average.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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UPDATED STANDINGS - 12/11/2017

(PSAC, Overall, Streak)


EAST

West Chester (5-0, 8-0, W8)
Kutztown (4-1, 8-1, W6)
East Stroudsburg (4-1, 7-1, L1)
Shippensburg (4-1, 7-2, W4)
Mansfield (3-2, 4-4, L1)
Bloomsburg (1-4, 5-4, W1)
Millersville (1-4, 3-8, L3)
Lock Haven (1-4, 2-6, L3)
Cheyney (1-4, 1-8, L3)


WEST

Edinboro (4-1, 6-2, W2)
IUP (4-1, 7-4, W2)
SRU (3-2, 8-2, W6)
UPJ (3-2, 5-4, W2)
Cal (2-3, 5-4, L2)
Mercyhurst (2-3, 4-4, L3)
Gannon (2-3, 5-5, W1)
Seton Hill (1-4, 3-6, L3)
Clarion (0-5, 2-8, L7)

[Golden89]

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I must admit that if there was one game that I had chalked up as a loss before the season, it was today at East Stroudsburg. I am quite surprised, to say the least, particularly after the last three losses.

Holding Stroud to over 40 points below their season average is insane. GU's three-point FG percentage defense is the best in the PSAC. Gannon also outrebounded ESU 37-25 and forced enough turnovers that the 23 they committed themselves didn't sting as much.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Bloom nips Clarion

Boro slips past Cheyney

IUP over Mansfield

Gannon D smothers ESU in huge road win

Ship blows Cal out of gym

UPJ over Lock Haven

WCU shorthanded over Mercy

Kutztown blasts Seton Hill

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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The East is much stronger and deeper this year -- so far.

East Stroudsburg is piling up points. That said, it's too early to declare them a title. Their opponents to this point have a combined 19-28 record. Their schedule is about to get immensely more difficult including a 14-day stretch in January against Shippensburg, (at) IUP, (at) West Chester and Kutztown.

It will be interesting to see if they can put up a big number on the Gannon defense and its 1950s pace.

Shippensburg is still going to be a real tough out. Dustin Sleva is the best player in the conference. West Chester is also very strong. Even the teams with bad records in the East are solid -- Lock Haven and Bloomsburg are going to pull some upsets this year. They've both lost a lot of real close games already. Mansfield is a real tough out and Millersville has been much better.

The West ... wouldn't want to bet it ... put it that way. Cal's next two are going to tell us a lot -- (at) Ship and (at) Fairmont State. Edinboro has lost a little buzz after losing at Daemen and at Mansfield. IUP looks great one minute and like a train wreck the next. Gannon's lost 3 in a row and is in a brutal stretch. Mercyhurst seems shaky at best. Slippery Rock isn't getting the hype but may be the best team in the West right now.

[Golden89]

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Interestingly enough, the East looks like it's in good position to beat the West for the second straight year, with a 20-15 edge.

The West is its usual dominant self on the women's side, with a 27-9 edge. Four teams in the west are undefeated (IUP, Boro, Cal). Only one team in the east is 3-1 (Stroud), and one more is 2-2 (WC). The rest have losing conference records. It's going to be a bloodbath once west vs. west play starts for the women.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Men's

Updated Standings as of 12-4-2017


EAST

(PSAC record then Overall record)

East Stroudsburg (4-0, 6-0)
West Chester (4-0, 7-0)
Kutztown (3-1, 6-1)
Shippensburg (3-1, 6-2)
Mansfield (3-1, 3-3)
Millersville (1-3, 3-6)
Lock Haven (1-3, 2-5)
Cheyney (1-3, 1-6)
Bloomsburg (0-4, 4-4)

WEST

Edinboro (3-1, 5-2)
IUP (3-1, 6-4)
Slippery Rock (2-2, 6-2)
California (2-2, 5-3)
Mercyhurst (2-2, 4-3)
UPJ (2-2, 4-4)
Gannon (1-3, 4-5)
Seton Hill (1-3, 3-5)
Clarion (0-4, 2-7)

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Sounds like a major scuffle in today's West Chester vs Seton Hill game ... combined 6 player ejections (3 each).

Box scores shows 6 players as "DQ" ....

[Fightingscot82]

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A couple nights ago Edinboro made the trip to Daemen and walked away with an L. At one point Daemen was up by 20. Edinboro has been a cold first half team - especially when Mason is cold. Coach Cleary has been doing a great job of coaching during the intermission and making proper adjustments. Daemen still won by 10 but the second half was much closer. Hopefully its something he can fix in practice to eliminate the need to play a hotter second half.