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No different than most years LOL.Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
seriously this really stinks for all players in both conferences. Also There were several teams that could have made deep runs in the tourney.Comment
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IUP would and would win! WL is a dumpster fire... Hurst waxed them the last tourney!!! Can't just chuck shots against the PSAC and think you'll win.Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
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IUP has been ducking WLU in the regular season AND losing on purpose to duck them in the tourney! Last year IUP engineered a global pandemic to avoid the chance of playing WLU in the NCAA tourney and this year they cancled their entire season to avoid the chance of playing WLU!!Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
IUP knows about getting waxed by Hurst...Happens in the regular season AND at home in the NCAA tourney!Comment
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And you're a dumb a@@! Guess we have reestablished those facts!!Originally posted by IUPalum View PostComment
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You know darn well right WL avoids the PSAC at all costs and have for 15 plus years now. IUP has tried scheduling them and WL refuses to leave their home court, PERIOD!!! A home and home like they've always done with Fairmont and others would be nice but no... WL won't leave their home court. How is that right? It's isn't! Go crawl back into your WV cave!Originally posted by boatcapt View PostComment
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Oh Palum...How can one person get soooo much wrong in one little post? Maybe you should do a bit of basic research before you put your sticky little fingers on the keyboard to type? WLU has played PSAC teams in the regular season for the last five years and would have again this year had Covid not intervined...Not the "15 plus years" you claim. I don't think either side (IUP or WLU) has been too interested in playing each other in the regular season. As I recall, IUP's "fair" offer was a three game series with the first two game at IUP...their back-up offer was a one game series, also at IUP. WLU wanted to do a simple home-and-home with the first year at WLU. Coach Joe was afraid to take that.Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
Now get your Yinzer a@@ to Gian' E'gle and get me a samich. I'm hungry from schooling you!!Comment
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Ad hominem arguments are the stuff of the football boardComment
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Come back with real information. IUP offered the home and home numerous time and WL turned them down. Also, the PSAC's WL has played in nonconference were the basement dwellers. Keep trying but your BOAT is sinking!Originally posted by boatcapt View PostComment
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Again with the false information from you. IUP's offer was for a THREE game series with the first TWO games at IUP. WLU countered that offer with a home-and-home series with the first game at WLU. IUP countered with a one game series at IUP. Hardly all the basement dwellers...WLU played Kutztown which was coming off a 20+ win season and that finished that season 16-14...Also played a WCU team that finished 22-9 and went to the NCAA tourney. The IUP v WVW and IUP v Concord games at IUP were real "top tier" games! WLU typically plays two PSAC schools to start the year, if IUP wants to be one of those schools, I would venture a guess that Coach Howlett wouldn't say no sooooo pick up the phone Joe and call! Sure, you might have to play at WLU the first year but if you truly are dying to play the Toppers, you have the power to make it happen.Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
My opinion that seems to be born out by the actions of their two (now three) coaches is that neither school truly want's to play the other in the regular season soooo, they throw roadblocks into any discussions that might occur...Joe demands a three game series with the first two at IUP knowing that Crutch (and Ben) are never going to agree to that...Crutch (and Ben?) ask for a two year series and demand that the first game be at WLU knowing that Joe will never agree.
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Two cents worth ...
IUP played a four-game set with Fairmont State. The first and last was in Fairmont. The middle two were in Indiana.
IUP played a home-n-home with Le Moyne.
It comes down to economics, too. Both IUP and WL draw well. IUP averaged more than 2,000 a game last year (with a streak over 3,000 along the way). The KCAC isn't like most of D2. Tickets are expensive (no general admission and the cheapest ticket is around $17). So, home games are valuable at IUP. Both programs have the Regional prestige to pretty much pick and choose who they play (and, when and where). In most years, neither will play a non-conference game on the road. It just doesn't make financial sense. At most, they will play one non-conference away game per season. Both have the resources to pay teams to come to their place. IUP has a long history with Bowie State -- a very reputable program. That series typically gets renewed at a 3 or 4 (at IUP) to 1 (at Bowie) ratio.
In most years, chances are one or the other (IUP or WL) is probably hosting the Regional (or, certainly in the running). Does either want to put that much emphasis on one non-conference game during the regular season? Probably not.
West Liberty is a pain to play and very dangerous. IUP is scary to play because not only do they have elite guard play but also very skilled bigs (and IUP is a very strong defensive team). Joe is also an exceptional coach. He's not going to get in to a track meet against WL like several MEC teams try and do. I think both programs hold a very high respect level for the other.
Bottom line, all the conspiracy theories and rumors aside, is if they wanted to play each other ... they'd play each other. The schools are only about 2 hours apart. They are closer than several conference games.
But, as we know, Joe isn't non-conference cream puff believer. Several years they scheduled the non-conference so tough that it actually came back and bit them.
They'll play again some day. It probably would have been in the final last season. I will always believe Covid cost Joe a national title last year. That team was just incredible all season and really peaked near the end.Comment
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