Drury Panthers

[DUPanther]

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You're right, the fewest FT's an opponent shot against AU this year was 7. However, they do seem pretty adept at not fouling, as they held teams to 10 or fewer FT attempts in a game 11 times this season.

Drury shot as few as 6 FT attempted in a game this season (prior to AU game). They attempted 10 or fewer FTs in a game nine times (but only twice since January 21).

Big difference between 10 and 2.

This year, Drury averaged taking 21.3 FT attempts per game and Ashland averaged giving up 16.4 FT attempts per game to their opponents.

[TSU_Mike59]

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You're right, the fewest FT's an opponent shot against AU this year was 7. However, they do seem pretty adept at not fouling, as they held teams to 10 or fewer FT attempts in a game 11 times this season.

Drury shot as few as 6 FT attempted in a game this season (prior to AU game). They attempted 10 or fewer FTs in a game nine times (but only twice since January 21).

[crazznewt]

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Amazing how Drury fans refuse to look at video. Refuse to acknowledge the fouls margin was actually 8. Refuse to care that they (Drury) outscored their previous opponent by the exact same margin at the foul line and were outscored from the field in the semifinal.

The stats were basically even in every category except one: 22-2 free throw attempts. Ashland shot twice as many free throws in the last 15 seconds than Drury did the whole game!
There may not have been bad intent by the refs, but to say they didn't affect the outcome of this game is avoiding the facts.

[DUPanther]

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Amazing how Drury fans refuse to look at video. Refuse to acknowledge the fouls margin was actually 8. Refuse to care that they (Drury) outscored their previous opponent by the exact same margin at the foul line and were outscored from the field in the semifinal.

[GMAC2018]

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You can go back and watch the play here. The Drury defender clearly tips the ball and then hits the AU shooter on the elbow on the way down. The picture above is after the foul. The official was standing right there.

https://www.ashland.edu/cas/jdm-depa...home/streaming

Amazing how Drury fans refuse to look at video. Refuse to acknowledge the fouls margin was actually 8. Refuse to care that they (Drury) outscored their previous opponent by the exact same margin at the foul line and were outscored from the field in the semifinal.

[DUFan]

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My judgment: Not a foul. Technical is silly at that point, and there is simply no way that the lovely Drury coach could do anything to warrant a technical, she is just too darn cute. Chances are Drury still losses the game, however. BTW, how could you not vote for the Drury coach as coach of the year? I have some suspicions that may explain it, but they are not fit for public consumption.

What you are thinking might be one part of it and the other possibility is she plays the same way no matter what the score is. There could be some coaches that have been smoked by 30-50 that think she was just running up the score. It is how Drury played when she was a player. It is how she coaches now.

[Knightmoves]

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My judgment: Not a foul. Technical is silly at that point, and there is simply no way that the lovely Drury coach could do anything to warrant a technical, she is just too darn cute. Chances are Drury still losses the game, however. BTW, how could you not vote for the Drury coach as coach of the year? I have some suspicions that may explain it, but they are not fit for public consumption.

[crazznewt]

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Both teams had 26 turnovers

[KnightStalker]

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Like I said whether they were right or wrong that discrepancy decided the game. 2 free throws

Believe me I sympathize with the refs interfering in the outcome of the game. I am not sure about the foul but the technical really seems ridiculous in that situation. Besides the referee's feelings, what gets hurt by the coach showing displeasure at an iffy call? Certainly not a proper call at the end of the game unless the coach pulled a Bobby Knight and threw a chair. I would take note that the article says Drury had 26 turnovers. That is a lot and I suspect that might have been the major cause for the loss (although it is circumstantial evidence that AU does play some aggressive defense that might not gotten as many fouls called as should have been.)

[crazznewt]

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It's a shame that Drury shot 2 free throws all game and it came down to 4 free throws at the end For the opposition

[unc4life]

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I linked to the photo below. The shooter still was in the upward process of shooting. There may have eventually been no contact (or maybe there was), but that photo alone is too early in the shot.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/375...screenshot.JPG

You can go back and watch the play here. The Drury defender clearly tips the ball and then hits the AU shooter on the elbow on the way down. The picture above is after the foul. The official was standing right there.

https://www.ashland.edu/cas/jdm-depa...home/streaming

[TSU_Mike59]

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what says it all is the photo the Springfield News Leader printed in this mornings addition of the shot showing no hand within a foot of the shooter and no body within 3 feet of the shooter.

I linked to the photo below. The shooter still was in the upward process of shooting. There may have eventually been no contact (or maybe there was), but that photo alone is too early in the shot.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/375...screenshot.JPG

[crazznewt]

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Again its fine if you want to blame the officials for the foul discrepancy which wasn't as large as the free throw discrepancy, but if you re watch the game, you will find many many missed foul calls that went against AU. It's all part of the game. Drury is lucky half their team didn't foul out in the 4th quarter.

Like I said whether they were right or wrong that discrepancy decided the game. 2 free throws

[DUFan]

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This is a pretty impressive article. I find it funny that the refs "cost" Drury the game. The article states that Drury should have won this game running away if not for the Tech. A game in which Drury never had a lead, and a game in which when the technical foul was called were down 2 and Ashland was shooting 2 free throws regardless of the tech. AU spent most of the game with double digit lead. Give credit to Drury for fighting back, but this game was all AU.

NOTE: Just saw the writer of this Article is from Springfield Mo, guess that explains it all.

As for how the NCAA does its tournament. It's not great, but its pretty close. The NAIA does a national tournament but it is only 32 teams, compared to the 64 the NCAA does. It would be impossible to do a 64 team national tournament at the D2 level, and if they did it would probably still look pretty close to how it does now.

what says it all is the photo the Springfield News Leader printed in this mornings addition of the shot showing no hand within a foot of the shooter and no body within 3 feet of the shooter. With the apparent rebound would Drury have taken the ball down in 11 seconds and made a shot to tie the game or win it with a three? We will never know. Which is why you let the players make plays and see how it works out. Short of a mugging a foul at that point in the game should never be called. It is sad from Drury's standpoint that they never got a chance to find out. It is sad from Ashland's standpoint that with articles and pictures like this their Elite Eight run will be a little bit tainted. Both teams deserve better. At the very least this official should be reprimanded to make sure every official understands if you are going to try and officiate at this level you better be on top of your game.

[unc4life]

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He said the refs cost Drury "A shot at the game". Shooting free throws with the game on the line is different when you know you"re shooting 4 free throws instead of just 2.

He did mention that looking at the stat sheet one would think Drury won this game if not for the 22-2 disparity in attempts at the line. Right or wrong, the game's outcome was decided by the referees.

Again its fine if you want to blame the officials for the foul discrepancy which wasn't as large as the free throw discrepancy, but if you re watch the game, you will find many many missed foul calls that went against AU. It's all part of the game. Drury is lucky half their team didn't foul out in the 4th quarter.