Performance Indicators 2016-17

[alumnifan]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

KWC did not form the G-MAC. They are charter members, but the conference got it's early start in Ohio. There for awhile I thought I may never live to see the expansion. We can still dream about our beloved friends in Louisville, btw.

[kwcpantherfan]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

At this point, I think KWC will keep rising on the NABC poll because we all know that all they seem to see is W/L's. I'm about 95% certain that you guys will get your G-MAC auto-bid, because I haven't seen anybody else step up near the level you guys are playing.

It's a good thing you guys are getting some more GLIAC teams next year to strengthen up your conference play - it's so difficult to make a good case for yourself when your second semester is as weak of a schedule as they get - and it's not your fault, unless you see it as KWC's fault for forming the G-MAC. But it is what it is.

It is our fault that we're playing Oakland City twice. But, by the same token it really isn't entirely our fault because it's near impossible to get filler games in the second semester since everyone with a conference is full swing in their conference schedule. That's put to rest next year, too, simply by having an adequate # of conference games.

[DJ Silky Panties]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

It is our fault that we're playing Oakland City twice. But, by the same token it really isn't entirely our fault because it's near impossible to get filler games in the second semester since everyone with a conference is full swing in their conference schedule. That's put to rest next year, too, simply by having an adequate # of conference games.

Pull a WoDney. Blame it on a "scheduling error".

[Knightmoves]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

A big weekend of games as far as teams at or near the top of the PI. Obviously the USI(1) v Parkside(2) clash is highly significant, along with Bellarmine (3) v. Lewis (18) (there is no way that there are anything close to 17 teams in the region that have more talent than Lewis). The GLVC also has some of the top PI teams playing with Ferris (5) playing Wayne St (10) and SVSU (14) (see previous comment on Lewis and apply to SVSU). Looking at the remaining schedules, the advantage in the GLVC seems to be with Findlay. The entire slate of intradivisional games just began last week. This means that Ferris has two games left against almost all the North teams, while Findlay has two games left against the somewhat weaker South teams. How much weaker the South may be is highly debatable, however.

It just occurred to me that if Parkside and Bellarmine win tonight, Saturday would probably pit 1 v. 2 for the second game in a row. Although I like USI's chances of winning tonight. Realistically, Parkside would love to be able to win one of these games this weekend. I have never really proven it statistically, but if you are playing two relatively even teams on the road, you have to think your better chance of winning is the Thursday game.

[schnautza]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

It just occurred to me that if Parkside and Bellarmine win tonight, Saturday would probably pit 1 v. 2 for the second game in a row.

Just ran some numbers - considering ONLY those two games and no other results, if BU and UWP win, UWP goes into 1st in the region and BU and USI are in a deadlock tie for 2nd.

If both BU and USI win, then you have USI in a solid 1st, BU in 2nd, and UWP right on their heels in 3rd (only one position down nationally)

[schnautza]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

12	Southern Indiana	Midwest	GLVC	15-1	93.75%	15.81	44.84%	51.53%
20	Wisconsin-Parkside	Midwest	GLVC	11-2	84.62%	15.38	47.62%	49.75%
24	Bellarmine	Midwest	GLVC	13-3	81.25%	15.25	49.08%	52.30%
26	Ferris State	Midwest	GLIAC	14-3	82.35%	15.24	46.55%	51.14%
36	Kentucky Wesleyan	Midwest	GMAC	14-2	87.50%	14.69	40.87%	52.36%
37	Truman State	Midwest	GLVC	11-4	73.33%	14.67	49.34%	47.35%
44	Findlay	Midwest	GLIAC	11-4	73.33%	14.33	48.82%	51.86%
47	Lake Superior State	Midwest	GLIAC	9-4	69.23%	14.31	53.51%	50.50%
65	Quincy	Midwest	GLVC	11-4	73.33%	13.87	46.41%	51.29%
68	Walsh	Midwest	GLIAC	12-4	75.00%	13.75	39.97%	53.27%
73	Wayne State (Mich.)	Midwest	GLIAC	9-5	64.29%	13.57	51.37%	49.89%
105	Drury	Midwest	GLVC	9-4	69.23%	12.77	46.28%	50.19%
111	Saginaw Valley State	Midwest	GLIAC	9-6	60.00%	12.67	49.21%	50.84%
114	Michigan Tech	Midwest	GLIAC	9-8	52.94%	12.59	54.35%	49.28%
120	Ohio Dominican	Midwest	GLIAC	9-7	56.25%	12.50	51.86%	50.05%
120	Ashland	Midwest	GLIAC	8-6	57.14%	12.50	51.41%	51.92%
127	Lewis	Midwest	GLVC	10-7	58.82%	12.24	47.81%	50.54%
131	Grand Valley State	Midwest	GLIAC	8-6	57.14%	12.21	49.44%	51.33%
135	Rockhurst	Midwest	GLVC	8-6	57.14%	12.07	51.68%	50.54%
152	Indianapolis	Midwest	GLVC	8-7	53.33%	11.73	47.47%	50.97%
166	Hillsdale	Midwest	GLIAC	7-10	41.18%	11.41	55.24%	50.00%
169	Missouri-St. Louis	Midwest	GLVC	7-8	46.67%	11.33	51.36%	47.01%
193	Saint Joseph's	Midwest	GLVC	7-8	46.67%	10.67	42.46%	50.60%
193	Alderson Broaddus	Midwest	GMAC	7-8	46.67%	10.67	44.29%	52.07%
196	Northern Michigan	Midwest	GLIAC	5-10	33.33%	10.60	57.84%	49.48%
207	Davis & Elkins	Midwest	GMAC	7-10	41.18%	10.24	48.41%	51.32%
211	Malone	Midwest	GMAC	4-8	33.33%	10.00	49.57%	46.27%
222	Tiffin	Midwest	GLIAC	4-9	30.77%	9.85	55.04%	50.49%
223	Missouri S&T	Midwest	GLVC	4-8	33.33%	9.83	54.47%	48.24%
263	Northwood	Midwest	GLIAC	3-15	16.67%	8.61	57.09%	49.45%
264	William Jewell	Midwest	GLVC	3-10	23.08%	8.54	50.88%	50.40%
268	Lake Erie	Midwest	GLIAC	3-16	15.79%	8.42	53.57%	49.57%
270	Oakland City	Midwest	IND	1-2	33.33%	8.33	44.16%	42.41%
270	Cedarville	Midwest	GMAC	4-11	26.67%	8.33	49.24%	47.31%
280	Illinois Springfield	Midwest	GLVC	2-10	16.67%	8.08	60.31%	48.54%
284	Trevecca Nazarene	Midwest	GMAC	5-13	27.78%	7.89	44.40%	50.35%
293	McKendree	Midwest	GLVC	2-9	18.18%	7.45	51.58%	48.19%
296	Maryville	Midwest	GLVC	2-12	14.29%	7.29	48.92%	48.16%
298	Ohio Valley	Midwest	GMAC	0-14	0.00%	7.21	60.57%	44.96%
306	Salem International	Midwest	IND	1-16	5.88%	6.06	50.69%	46.55%

[alumnifan]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

Are you not counting Wesleyan's win over Auburn Montgomery, because they are in their first NCAA provisional year? Their official record is 15-2. You have them at 14-2. Just wondering...

[schnautza]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

Are you not counting Wesleyan's win over Auburn Montgomery, because they are in their first NCAA provisional year? Their official record is 15-2. You have them at 14-2. Just wondering...

That is correct. Schools in their second year do count, so assuming they successfully complete their first year, you'll see them counted next season.

[schnautza]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

6	Southern Indiana	Midwest	GLVC	16-1	94.12%	16.47	45.11%	51.47%
10	Bellarmine	Midwest	GLVC	14-3	82.35%	16.12	50.70%	51.99%
18	Ferris State	Midwest	GLIAC	15-3	83.33%	15.56	46.17%	51.47%
31	Truman State	Midwest	GLVC	12-4	75.00%	15.19	49.48%	48.01%
32	Wisconsin-Parkside	Midwest	GLVC	11-3	78.57%	15.07	50.50%	49.47%
34	Kentucky Wesleyan	Midwest	GMAC	15-2	88.24%	14.88	41.41%	51.23%
49	Quincy	Midwest	GLVC	12-4	75.00%	14.25	44.60%	51.17%
50	Findlay	Midwest	GLIAC	12-4	75.00%	14.19	46.60%	52.03%
55	Lake Superior State	Midwest	GLIAC	9-5	64.29%	14.07	54.80%	50.26%
79	Walsh	Midwest	GLIAC	12-5	70.59%	13.41	41.45%	52.43%
80	Wayne State (Mich.)	Midwest	GLIAC	9-6	60.00%	13.40	54.07%	49.64%
90	Drury	Midwest	GLVC	10-4	71.43%	13.14	45.89%	50.55%
97	Ohio Dominican	Midwest	GLIAC	10-7	58.82%	13.00	53.04%	49.09%
102	Michigan Tech	Midwest	GLIAC	10-8	55.56%	12.89	53.91%	50.45%
105	Grand Valley State	Midwest	GLIAC	9-6	60.00%	12.80	49.35%	51.32%
110	Ashland	Midwest	GLIAC	8-6	57.14%	12.71	52.08%	51.73%
121	Rockhurst	Midwest	GLVC	8-7	53.33%	12.40	53.92%	49.63%
123	Saginaw Valley State	Midwest	GLIAC	9-7	56.25%	12.38	50.32%	50.44%
130	Lewis	Midwest	GLVC	10-8	55.56%	12.17	50.40%	49.97%
138	Indianapolis	Midwest	GLVC	9-7	56.25%	12.06	44.96%	51.77%
163	Hillsdale	Midwest	GLIAC	8-10	44.44%	11.61	53.84%	49.93%
170	Missouri-St. Louis	Midwest	GLVC	7-9	43.75%	11.38	52.67%	47.15%
190	Davis & Elkins	Midwest	GMAC	8-10	44.44%	10.78	47.11%	50.81%
195	Alderson Broaddus	Midwest	GMAC	7-9	43.75%	10.69	46.21%	50.67%
195	Northern Michigan	Midwest	GLIAC	6-10	37.50%	10.69	53.96%	50.77%
205	Saint Joseph's	Midwest	GLVC	7-9	43.75%	10.31	41.07%	50.72%
216	Missouri S&T	Midwest	GLVC	5-8	38.46%	10.00	51.25%	49.12%
230	Tiffin	Midwest	GLIAC	4-10	28.57%	9.71	54.14%	50.91%
236	Malone	Midwest	GMAC	5-8	38.46%	9.62	45.44%	47.81%
241	Oakland City	Midwest	IND	1-2	33.33%	9.33	46.09%	41.73%
259	Illinois Springfield	Midwest	GLVC	2-11	15.38%	8.85	59.96%	48.03%
263	Cedarville	Midwest	GMAC	4-11	26.67%	8.73	48.71%	47.40%
266	William Jewell	Midwest	GLVC	3-11	21.43%	8.71	50.00%	50.49%
270	McKendree	Midwest	GLVC	3-9	25.00%	8.58	51.11%	47.72%
271	Northwood	Midwest	GLIAC	3-16	15.79%	8.58	56.20%	49.49%
275	Trevecca Nazarene	Midwest	GMAC	5-14	26.32%	8.42	45.34%	49.76%
277	Lake Erie	Midwest	GLIAC	3-17	15.00%	8.25	54.87%	49.30%
291	Maryville	Midwest	GLVC	2-13	13.33%	7.60	50.07%	48.01%
304	Ohio Valley	Midwest	GMAC	0-15	0.00%	6.53	58.18%	45.28%
307	Salem International	Midwest	IND	1-17	5.56%	6.22	49.98%	46.38%

[Knightmoves]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

As always, the PI gets better at identifying the regional contenders as the season progresses. If the season ended tomorrow, it would be hard to argue against the top eight being in the regional. I continue to think that Ferris is well positioned to snag a #1 seed. If they win out in the regular season, they will host the GLIAC tournament and be in a good position to win it. Feb 23 in Knight's Hall is beginning to loom very large.

[KnightStalker]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

The next 3 games for Ferris will be telling. Road games at N. Mich, Mich Tech and GVSU will be difficult despite their combined records. If they pull through with wins in those 3, I'm not sure they can be beaten the rest of the way. If that happens it would be up to USI or BU to run the table as well to take the #1 seed. That would be difficult for either one of them to do since even though GLIAC maybe overall better this year, GLVC has 4 or 5 of the best teams in the region which either one would have to beat most of, if not all, to win out. Ferris having the home court advantage for the GLIAC tourney is a big edge over the GLVC neutral site (even Ford Center is not the same as the PAC for USI.)

[alumnifan]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

KWC beat Tech in Michigan.

"No soup for you. NEXT!"

[EagleWhip]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

I think that it is critical that KWC win the GMAC tourney or they may be left on the outside looking in come NCAA time and that would be a travesty. It doesn't appear, excepting maybe in the GMAC tourney, that KWC will play a team with a winning record for the rest of the season. The home and home with OKC will do little to help their position. I fully expect KWC to win out, host the tourney and be the lone NCAA representative from the GMAC.

[alumnifan]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

Your Momma!

[Wesleyan62]

Re: Performance Indicators 2016-17

I think that it is critical that KWC win the GMAC tourney or they may be left on the outside looking in come NCAA time and that would be a travesty. It doesn't appear, excepting maybe in the GMAC tourney, that KWC will play a team with a winning record for the rest of the season. The home and home with OKC will do little to help their position. I fully expect KWC to win out, host the tourney and be the lone NCAA representative from the GMAC.

I have been watching Wesleyan for 53 years and I know enough basketball to be sure of one thing. USI, Bellarmine and Ferris State coaching staffs don't want to see us as a 8 seed. That you can be sure of.