G-MAC All-Sports and Conference Business Thread

[UFSwimDad]

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Re: GLVC News. Whatever happens on that front might not be found out for a while. I've yet to see evidence that the GLVC knows St. Joe's is closing.

That's pretty damn funny!

[Wabbott9]

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That's pretty damn funny!

And sad at the same time. The GLVC website has conference schedules posted, sometimes out to the 2018-2019 school year. I get that you probably can't make new schedules so soon, but you could pull the old ones, since by including St. Joe's they clearly aren't right no matter what.

[BlueBlood]

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Obviously the mention of Ashland during the Mark Elliott radio show was the attention-grabber . However, he also mentioned that the G-MAC would like to set up divisions and that divisional play would greatly minimize TNU's excessive travel. When I look at potential division breakdowns, I just don't see how they will get much relief. If you go with EAST/WEST divisions, TNU still goes to NW Ohio and Michigan. If you carve divisions NORTH/SOUTH, TNU still goes to WV (Interestingly, N/S divisions would basically be "Old G-MAC" / "New G-MAC"). Unless the G-MAC is adding a couple schools decently close to TNU, I just don't see where they get much relief. They are reducing the Cleveland trips (in half, presumably) - that's about it.

[BlueBlood]

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I may have gone of the deep end.

Do you think there was ever a plan for two new private school D2 conferences, not just one? Here's what got me thinking. The G-MAC is essentially turning into the All-Ohio D2 conference that was envisioned 10 years ago. Its the same group schools. KWC and TNU knew about that vision, knew how many OH schools were possible, yet joined anyway. They also knew that there is a severe lack of current D2s in between them and the Ohio schools. So, there weren't and still aren't a lot of expansion targets in their area.

Much like the NAIA AMC conference schools had a plan to go D2 and re-create their conference in D2, is it possible that the TN/KY NAIA schools had the same vision? TN schools TNU, Union, and Lee recently transitioned from NAIA to D2. Shorter (GA) did too and is just over the TN border. We know that MSC schools G-town and Cumberland applied. Quite a few of us thought that others would likely follow them, as the MSC more or less imploded. If you add all those schools up (and include KWC and maybe Christian Brothers), you get a really nice group of smaller, private, mostly faith-based TN/KY schools. Its a southern version of the G-MAC. Instead of private schools temporarily being in the "big school" GLIAC, you have private schools temporarily being in the "big school" GSC.

The schools who originally started creating the G-MAC (CU, UC, NDC and Urbana) were in a holding pattern until the conference was set up and the private GLIAC schools were ready to leave the GLIAC. I'm staring to wonder if TNU was in the same holding pattern - and the G-MAC was prepared to sponsor/"hold" schools from both OH and KY/TN (including TNU, Cumberland and G-town) until all the pieces were in place.

I wonder if the only thing that halted the plan was the G-town / Cumberland denials.

Union, Lee, Christian Brothers, Shorter, Cumberland, TNU, KWC, Georgetown, Campbellsville, L-W, Cumberlands, Pikeville, etc?

[BlueBlood]

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Fire away - tell me I've gone completly nuts.

[ABjo]

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Fire away - tell me I've gone completly nuts.

Ha! :) Who the heck knows! You may be spot on... I highly doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

[JDonAB92]

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If so, why add Alderson Broaddus, Central State, Davis & Elkins, Ohio Valley and Salem International, and even extended an invite to Bluefield State at one point??? They don't fit the theory.

[UFSwimDad]

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I may have gone of the deep end.

Do you think there was ever a plan for two new private school D2 conferences, not just one? Here's what got me thinking. The G-MAC is essentially turning into the All-Ohio D2 conference that was envisioned 10 years ago. Its the same group schools. KWC and TNU knew about that vision, knew how many OH schools were possible, yet joined anyway. They also knew that there is a severe lack of current D2s in between them and the Ohio schools. So, there weren't and still aren't a lot of expansion targets in their area.

Much like the NAIA AMC conference schools had a plan to go D2 and re-create their conference in D2, is it possible that the TN/KY NAIA schools had the same vision? TN schools TNU, Union, and Lee recently transitioned from NAIA to D2. Shorter (GA) did too and is just over the TN border. We know that MSC schools G-town and Cumberland applied. Quite a few of us thought that others would likely follow them, as the MSC more or less imploded. If you add all those schools up (and include KWC and maybe Christian Brothers), you get a really nice group of smaller, private, mostly faith-based TN/KY schools. Its a southern version of the G-MAC. Instead of private schools temporarily being in the "big school" GLIAC, you have private schools temporarily being in the "big school" GSC.

The schools who originally started creating the G-MAC (CU, UC, NDC and Urbana) were in a holding pattern until the conference was set up and the private GLIAC schools were ready to leave the GLIAC. I'm staring to wonder if TNU was in the same holding pattern - and the G-MAC was prepared to sponsor/"hold" schools from both OH and KY/TN (including TNU, Cumberland and G-town) until all the pieces were in place.

I wonder if the only thing that halted the plan was the G-town / Cumberland denials.

Union, Lee, Christian Brothers, Shorter, Cumberland, TNU, KWC, Georgetown, Campbellsville, L-W, Cumberlands, Pikeville, etc?

I want this to happen not because it would be a good thing for all involved, rather because of the great lengths you went to come up with this hypothesis! I mean if it were to become true, you sir have a gift!

[BlueBlood]

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If so, why add Alderson Broaddus, Central State, Davis & Elkins, Ohio Valley and Salem International, and even extended an invite to Bluefield State at one point??? They don't fit the theory.

Yeah, I'm admittedly probably way off base.

[BlueBlood]

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UFSwimDad - me too. I wasted way too much time on that.

[BlueBlood]

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So far*, I think this conference has displayed a togetherness and a "one for all, all for one" mentality. Underdogs don't usually rise unless they do. I hope it stays that way.

*and specifically post-MEC raid, post NAIA rejections. There were some dark days there.

[UFSwimDad]

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I am very happy with how this is shaping up. Quality schools in most every sport! I say keep call all schools to gauge interest. EVERY conference does and are most likely are currently making inquiries no matter what people say. It's the way of the land now a days

[Looking For 9]

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I also am very happy with the G-MAC and the future. Let the fake D2 schools (big state schools) have their conferences and we will have a fun fair experience.

[BlueBlood]

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BTW - the conference has not updated the expansion tracker, the conference history or the mileage chart since the Tiffin announcement (they were pretty quick to update those during prior expansions). Might be a good sign that another shoe may drop. Or, it might be nothing.

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CU baseball is still sputtering, but CU softball has an 8-game conference winning streak going.

[BlueBlood]

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CU softball has an 8-game conference winning streak going.

10 games (sorry AB). Admittedly, they haven't played TNU during the streak. Go Jackets.