G-MAC All-Sports and Conference Business Thread

[UFSwimDad]

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I did here at one time that Indy has indeed been seriously considering a conference switch. They were supposed to have a meeting to lay out all of the positives and negatives of three scenarios (1: staying in the GLVC, 2: moving to the G-MAC, 3: moving to the GLIAC). Don't remember when that was supposed to happen or if it has already happened. Told that St. Joseph's closing kind of sparked some things on UIndy's campus. That was a while ago at a club volleyball tournament that I was reffing at. Have not heard anything sense.

That would certainly be a home run addition! I may be wrong in thinking this but I just don't see the closing of St Joe as all that backbreaking for UINDY that they would consider a move. Just a gut feeling. I think at most, 10% chance as things currently stand

[alumnifan]

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Ashland might have been the strongest rival for KWC in the GLVC in the early 80's in basketball. Those games were phenomenal.

It's hard for me to believe that UIndy would ever leave the GLVC.

Now, Bellarmine is a different story. Going D1 for Bellarmine would be very expensive. The institution is very solid in D2. However, the G-MAC is still a very young conference. It would seem to me that no other program should be given a bid to join the G-MAC until after the 1918-19 season. At that point things will change.

[UFSwimDad]

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I believe Alumnifan hit is squarely on the head. No real need to have anyone join right now. If the decision has already been made (Ashland) then so be it. The winds of change are slowing blowing in my opinion. One or two moves here or there will open up some very intriguing and welcomed additions to the conference after this year. I think that with St Joe closing and a noticeable movement by the GLVC westward, I could see BU and UINDY looking to change and feel that they are in a wait and see mode right now. I do believe if one goes, they other may well follow. Neither one really wants to be that eastern island in my opinion. 2018-19 does seem more realistic for another major move.

[alumnifan]

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I believe Alumnifan hit is squarely on the head. No real need to have anyone join right now. If the decision has already been made (Ashland) then so be it. The winds of change are slowing blowing in my opinion. One or two moves here or there will open up some very intriguing and welcomed additions to the conference after this year. I think that with St Joe closing and a noticeable movement by the GLVC westward, I could see BU and UINDY looking to change and feel that they are in a wait and see mode right now. I do believe if one goes, they other may well follow. Neither one really wants to be that eastern island in my opinion. 2018-19 does seem more realistic for another major move.

Bellarmine would not be the eastern island. KWC is the eastern island along with Trevecca, and probably always will be. However, should the G-MAC go to a three pod system after the 18-19 season, both of those programs would benefit if two programs joined then.

KWC will always play Oakland City, but I have a feeling OCU is struggling. They will probably remain as an independent. Their association with the NCAA is for academic purposes.

KWC also schedules Kentucky State every season. They will not be leaving the SIAC, IMO.

UIndy can afford the travel. And, I think you are right about the "if one goes, the other will follow" theory. USI looks to be transitioning to D1. I think in two more years, they will move up.

A pod system of some sort has to be in the works. Before that happens, the GLVC and the GLIAC will need to figure out what they are going to do. Kentucky needs another D2 program and Lindsey Wilson would be my pick. We can forget about a D3 moving up. Transylvania and Centre will stay D3.

[UFSwimDad]

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Meant eastern most for the GLVC is that conference were to continue to move more west. I was not clear sorry.

[Looking For 9]

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<-------- west east--------->

GLVC schools <-------------Indy---->GMAC schools

:)

[BlueBlood]

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I did here at one time that Indy has indeed been seriously considering a conference switch. They were supposed to have a meeting to lay out all of the positives and negatives of three scenarios (1: staying in the GLVC, 2: moving to the G-MAC, 3: moving to the GLIAC). Don't remember when that was supposed to happen or if it has already happened. Told that St. Joseph's closing kind of sparked some things on UIndy's campus. That was a while ago at a club volleyball tournament that I was reffing at. Have not heard anything sense.

Ever since buckeye posted this, I've been wondering if there might be coordination between Ashland and UIndy regarding a move (for one or both). These two schools have a long history together (GLVC, Heartland, MIFC, GLIAC football/swim/lax).

Could Ashland influence UIndy to go GLIAC? Its not any better geographically for them, but it does bring a "swimming with the big dogs" element. Ashland posters seems to indicate that Ashland embraces the "we are okay being a GLIAC island" in OH role. Do they encourage UIndy to assume a similar role in central IN?

Do both schools look at each other (and maybe Bellarmine) and agree that the G-MAC geography (and sports offered) makes too much sense and they make the G-MAC plunge together?

Either situation is probably less likely to happen than the status quo. However, I have a feeling they have at least discussed it.

[UFSwimDad]

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<-------- west east--------->

GLVC schools <-------------Indy---->GMAC schools

:)

Screw it! It's been a long day already. I can't function. 😭

[UFSwimDad]

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Ever since buckeye posted this, I've been wondering if there might be coordination between Ashland and UIndy regarding a move (for one or both). These two schools have a long history together (GLVC, Heartland, MIFC, GLIAC football/swim/lax).

Could Ashland influence UIndy to go GLIAC? Its not any better geographically for them, but it does bring a "swimming with the big dogs" element. Ashland posters seems to indicate that Ashland embraces the "we are okay being a GLIAC island" in OH role. Do they encourage UIndy to assume a similar role in central IN?

Do both schools look at each other (and maybe Bellarmine) and agree that the G-MAC geography (and sports offered) makes too much sense and they make the G-MAC plunge together?

Either situation is probably less likely to happen than the status quo. However, I have a feeling they have at least discussed it.

I believe at least one UINDY poster stated that they personally feel that the team got soft after leaving the GLIAC and that they would like to go back and knock heads with the Michigan schools and Ashland. You connected two very reasonable dots in my opinion. Shouldn't be discounted.

[UFSwimDad]

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Did anyone else see the post on the GLVC site about William Jewell? Mildly interesting.

[alumnifan]

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Meant eastern most for the GLVC is that conference were to continue to move more west. I was not clear sorry.

No, my comment was the one that didn't make sense. I know east from West, just was not thinking.

KWC lost to Northwood today. Wesleyan left some runners stranded. No big surprise as to that outcome.

Tomorrow's game will be against Bellarmine. That is a winnable game for the Panthers. They split with Bell in the regular season at Knights Field. Alderson Broaddus also won a game against Bellarmine. That's an elimination game for the loser of that one. Should be a good game.

[BlueBlood]

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Did anyone else see the post on the GLVC site about William Jewell? Mildly interesting.

I just looked at it. Not sure that it would impact us much one way or the other. One less trip to that side of the conference would probably actually benefit UIndy and BU.

I also just looked at the MEC board. Overall, I think that one is a little more intriguing. Infighting among different members' posters - which I realize doesn't necessarily mean infighting among the actual members. Nonetheless, some of the issues addressed are interesting. Looks like Urbana situation and MEC possibly kicking WJU out has some NDC folks a little anxious. Minus Urbana and WJU, NDC's island would certainly get a little more remote.

Interesting CU mention too. I have heard similar versions of that before. Not sure of how things actually happened "behind the curtain", and probably never will. But, I like the way it turned out for CU.

BTW - now all of the sudden the MEC posters seem pretty solidly unified in wanting AB. A year or two ago, they were scoffing at AB.

[UFSwimDad]

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[QUOTE=BlueBlood;2051412]I just looked at it. Not sure that it would impact us much one way or the other. One less trip to that side of the conference would probably actually benefit UIndy and BU.

I think it actually may indeed have an impact on the GMAC. St Joe closes and WJ drops to D3. Wouldn't you think that would use some sort of impact on UINDYs thinking and maybe even BU? Certainly a long shot and I am not at all convinced that what the poster stated actually happened but it does make for interesting discussion.

[UFSwimDad]

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Hey BlueBlood, what are they saying on the MEC board cause I cannot find it

[BlueBlood]

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http://www.d2football.com/forum/show...52#post2051352