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  • #46
    Originally posted by GSCfan1275 View Post
    If I remember correctly, in 1981 or so, Clemson opened against Wofford, who I believe was an NAIA school at the time.
    I was born and raised in Spartanburg SC, and the Tigers did play the Terriers in 1981. However, Wofford (NAIA through 1994 I believe) was a replacement game for a cancellation on Clemson's schedule. I remember Wofford fans were excited but expecting bloodshed on the field. In my middle school mind, it actually seemed like a decent game (45-10 win for CU), but as I grew to better understand the game, it was obvious that Clemson lowered the throttle and played the game like a scrimmage. They were loaded with All-Americans on both side of the ball that year.....


    • #47
      Originally posted by Argonut View Post
      In 2019 a motivated FSU handled a .500 FCS Alabama State at Doak Walker by dominating with running game to win by 5 TDS in order to secure bowl bid. Alabama State squeaked by .500 D2 Tuskegee by one TD who themselves were blown out by D2 West Alabama. Using these games as measuring stick it’s conceivable Argos could give Seminoles closer game than Alabama State.

      I agree that Argo QB Reed played better than any FSU QB last year and would have advantage of familiarity with offense over FSU QB, but better QB and kickers are not enough to overcome FSU athletic size and depth on line and speed of skill players in first stringer matchup. Coach Norvell is no dummy and he wouldn’t rely on QB to win game, he would just line up running game and wear out Argos defense and keep Reed cold standing on sidelines.

      It would be interesting to watch strategy of coaches in such an exhibition game matchup, especially with probably more motivated Argos. What makes this game even more interesting is the Argos talent for forcing fumbles and their quick score passing game that could unnerve the undisciplined Seminoles into even more mistakes and easy Argo short field scores.
      The transitive property has not been proven with regards to college football.


      • #48
        I did recall this on the topic and looked into it. I haven't done much research to confirm this as being current but UNA football's Wikipedia page states this:

        UNA was the last Division II team to beat a Division I-A (FBS) team, defeating Southwestern Louisiana (now Louisiana) on October 11, 1997.

        It links here as the source:

        From UNA's current Media Guide:

        UNA vs. Division I FBS Programs (2-2)
        *1959 at Vanderbilt................................... Lost 7-42
        *1972 at Appalachian State...................... Lost 3-17
        *1973 Appalachian State.......................... Won 21-7
        *1997 at Southwestern Louisiana (4 OT). Won 48-42

        Win Over Division I

        On Oct. 11, 1997 the Lions defeated Division I Southwestern Louisiana State (now Louisiana-Lafayette) 48-42 in four overtimes at Cajun Field. UNA trailed 18-7 at the half but freshman quarterback Tyler Peterson led a second half comeback that gave the Lions a 27-24 lead with 3:16 left in the game. The Ragin' Cajuns tied the game with a field goal with 18 seconds left in regulation to force overtime. Both teams scored touchdowns in the first overtime, missed field goal attempts in the second OT and scored touchdowns in the third extra period. In the fourth overtime, UNA's Chad Sears intercepted a Southwestern Louisiana pass to end their possession. Two plays later, UNA's Greg Manson raced 20 yards straight up the middle to the end zone. He actually also ran up the player's tunnel at the end of the stadium and out of view. The win was a rare win by an NCAA Division II institution over a Division I school. Peterson rushed for three touchdowns and threw for another, finishing with 140 yards rushing and 84 passing. Manson added 106 yards rushing.
        Go GSC and Roar LIONS!!


        • #49
          Originally posted by Runnin' Cat View Post

          The transitive property has not been proven with regards to college football.
          Especially when it is based on anecdotal evidence.

          I'd pay to watch UWF v. FSU, but I just don't see it ever happening.