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  • D2 vs D1 in 2020?

    Assuming a reduced schedule with regional reduced travel games is it more likely in 2020 that an in state or region D2 team might become a fill in game for D1 team? West Florida playing at FSU, Florida, Stetson? Valdosta at Georgia or Georgia Tech? Ferris State at Michigan? NW Mo. St. at Missouri? Delta State at Ole Miss? Could the peculiar 2020 season become even more absurdly peculiar?

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    No way in hell I could see them approving a D2 playing a power 5 conference FBS school. While it might be a convenient option given the current circumstances, I think both teams having an open date would be preferred on both sides.

    It would be an absolute beat down for the D2 team, and a waste of time for the FBS team (they'd be better served doing an intrasquad scrimmage).
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    • #3
      Wow...I thought Western PA fans came up with crazy ideas...

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      • #4
        I get the beat down objection, but my speculation of this possibility concerns a situation where positive test results quarantine teams into giving up on a limited conference schedule and turns football into creative exhibitions where regional FBS vs FCS/D2 or FCS v D2 might occur for morale purposes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Argonut View Post
          I get the beat down objection, but my speculation of this possibility concerns a situation where positive test results quarantine teams into giving up on a limited conference schedule and turns football into creative exhibitions where regional FBS vs FCS/D2 or FCS v D2 might occur for morale purposes.
          Consider the reaction from the D1 fans when their 4A RB recruit blows out his knee playing an exhibition. Serious tar and feather time.

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          • #6
            Ok, how’s this for a D2 @ FBS pandemic exhibition game to avoid beat down or tar and feathering:

            National Champion Argos go to Bobby Bowden field to play 2nd and 3rd string Seminoles and NCAA grants all players waivers of eligibility loss for game.

            Argos and Seminoles, in essence, get their spring game back and Norvell gets to install playbook without risk to starters or prized new recruits.

            Argos get chance to play in historic stadium and Seminoles get experience of playing national champion.

            Both teams agree to running clock in case game gets out of hand. Better chance Argo QB Reed goes off for another 500 yd. game than Seminole QB do anything approaching that kind of production.

            Both teams get national prime time exposure and help boost morale of northwest Florida. Win win for both teams, players, students and alumni, especially considering FSU and West Florida have joint internship medical program building on UWF campus that also doubles as Argo weight room and locker room.




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            • #7
              I thought we had the strong stuff in Colorado

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              • #8
                Luv me some Argos, and would love for this to be an option in the future, but now? Power 5 against D2? Not happening. If you're talking Florida A&M, Bethune-Cookman, or Stetson (all FCS), well that's much more realistic....

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                • #9
                  I agree that D2 vs P5 is a non-starter, I don’t see P5 vs D2 either, Here is the Midwest at least I think that the number of FCS teams would be too big of a buffer between the MAC and GLIAC/GLVC/GMAC. I do potentially see more FCS/D2 matchups, I don’t think the non-scholly FCS teams would want a matchup vs MAC teams so they could (and already to an extent) look to D2 for matchups. I also think we could see programs like GV, Ferris, UIndy and AU possibly matching up with OVC and MVC teams.

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                  • #10
                    FBS schools are not allowed to schedule D2 schools.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brandon View Post
                      FBS schools are not allowed to schedule D2 schools.
                      Not allowed, or just don't do it because it would be an uncountable game for the FBS school? I thought it was because to have a game "count" on your schedule, it had to be within one level of play on either side of you. So FBS could play FCS, FCS could play FBS or D2, D2 could play FCS or D3 and still have them count.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

                        Not allowed, or just don't do it because it would be an uncountable game for the FBS school? I thought it was because to have a game "count" on your schedule, it had to be within one level of play on either side of you. So FBS could play FCS, FCS could play FBS or D2, D2 could play FCS or D3 and still have them count.
                        Someone can correct me if I'm wrong - but as I understand it, there is no rule forbidding an FBS team from scheduling a D2 team.

                        Obviously, as well all know - an FBS team can't count a win against a D2 team for bowl eligibility. This, combined with the risk of injury, is why we'll never see a D2 team play an FBS team under normal circumstances. They have absolutely nothing to gain and absolutely everything to lose.




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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Argonut View Post
                          Ok, how’s this for a D2 @ FBS pandemic exhibition game to avoid beat down or tar and feathering:

                          Both teams agree to running clock in case game gets out of hand. Better chance Argo QB Reed goes off for another 500 yd. game than Seminole QB do anything approaching that kind of production.
                          Let me spin this around - why would West Florida ever agree to a game against FSU? Why would they risk the health of Austin Reed? Is the 15 seconds of fame ESPN would give the Argos really be worth the risk of injuring your starters and potentially sabotaging another title run? If they "win" the scrimmage rules game against a bunch of third stringers, do they get anything tangible as a result?

                          It's a fun idea in theory - I'd love to see Minnesota State play the Gophers, it's just never going to happen. Nobody stands anything to gain from it.

                          Maybe, and this is beyond a stretch here, but maybe a bottom-feeder FBS team with no playoff hopes decides to schedule a D2 team for game experience to avoid getting trucked by an FCS team. They'd be ridiculed by the sports media - but maybe they decide it's somehow worth it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

                            Let me spin this around - why would West Florida ever agree to a game against FSU? Why would they risk the health of Austin Reed? Is the 15 seconds of fame ESPN would give the Argos really be worth the risk of injuring your starters and potentially sabotaging another title run? If they "win" the scrimmage rules game against a bunch of third stringers, do they get anything tangible as a result?

                            It's a fun idea in theory - I'd love to see Minnesota State play the Gophers, it's just never going to happen. Nobody stands anything to gain from it.

                            Maybe, and this is beyond a stretch here, but maybe a bottom-feeder FBS team with no playoff hopes decides to schedule a D2 team for game experience to avoid getting trucked by an FCS team. They'd be ridiculed by the sports media - but maybe they decide it's somehow worth it.

                            I agree that UWF @ FSU football game would never happen in normal season and very unlikely in current crazy season, but Argo men’s and women’s athletic teams have played FSU many times before in other sports, football team is 1-0 vs. D1 and this is Florida where “crazy” does occasionally happen.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Argonut View Post


                              I agree that UWF @ FSU football game would never happen in normal season and very unlikely in current crazy season, but Argo men’s and women’s athletic teams have played FSU many times before in other sports, football team is 1-0 vs. D1 and this is Florida where “crazy” does occasionally happen.
                              Those sports don't carry the same injury risk and scheduling restrictions that football does. Then there's also the talent gap to consider, which is far greater in football than it is in almost every other sport, IMO. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

                              The Argos did beat the FCS North Alabama Lions in 2018, but that was a transitional year that saw a D2 UNA roster classified as an FCS independent. IMO, it's an impressive feat and a nice footnote for UWF, but it's just not the same as beating a seasoned D1 contender.

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