Video: Should Division II Overhaul the Playoff System? - with Mike Racy

[Brandon]

This is one reason why I think very little will be done outside of regional realignment. It's one thing to guarantee a conference a spot, but it's another to tell those conferences that it will be more difficult to get a second or even third team in.

There would be interesting decisions to be made by those conferences. I see why the SAC and the PSAC would be against it.
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Conf	2022	2021	2019	2018	2017	xxx	2022 FCS	2021 FCS
NE10	2	2	0	2	1		1	1
PSAC	3	3	5	3	4		3	4
MEC	1	1	1	1	1		1	1
GMAC	1	1	1	1	1		1	1
CIAA	2	1	1	1	2		2	1
SAC	2	2	3	2	1		1	1
SIAC	1	1	1	0	0		1	1

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No real change: MEC, GMAC, CIAA
Fewer teams: NE10, SAC
More teams: PSAC
Unknown: SIAC

I think the PSAC we be against it as would the SAC.

Would the NE10 view getting a guaranteed team in the playoffs to be more enticing than the possibility of getting shut out as they did in 2019?

I think the SIAC would vote in favor in order to avoid getting shut out and having an opportunity to for two teams (in a theoretical situation where someone upset Benedict this year).

I think the CIAA is generally getting one team in, but I think they would vote for change for the same reason that the SIAC would.

I am unsure of how the MEC and GMAC would vote.

[Matt Witwicki]

Oh come on, Shepherd is undefeated against GV!

The Rams lost midseason to Kutztown and came into the dance with 1 loss.

[IUPNation]

The tricky part about SR2 is that if you move the MEC to it, you have to move another conference away from SR2... and the one that makes the most sense to move is the GSC. And now SR2 is the "weak region".

The GSC has a pending crisis once the three teams they are fostering move over to Conference Carolina’s when the resume foosball in a few years..and West Florida won’t be staying D2 forever.

[IUPNation]

Another example of how I'm worried about the entire thing and not focused on one team!

Ok Pop Pop.

;-)

[IUPNation]

CalU Marching Band In Maryville playing their fight song “On Top Of Spaghetti”

[EastStroud13]

The tricky part about SR2 is that if you move the MEC to it, you have to move another conference away from SR2... and the one that makes the most sense to move is the GSC. And now SR2 is the "weak region".

[Brandon]

Bloomsburg and California both made trips to Maryville in Semi final games. How did you forget?

:-)

Heck CalU sent their band out there and you all got treated to their fight song “On Top Of Spaghetti”.

Another example of how I'm worried about the entire thing and not focused on one team!

[Brandon]

You could potentially count Shepherd in 2015, but they were in the MEC at that time.

Yeah.

[Ram Tough]

Ferris was the overall #2 seed in the rankings I think, but yes I think this is the best way forth considering wholesale changes rarely happen. Reseed at the quarterfinals and have a true national playoff from there. To further hammer it home to get the "best" in, Region 3 needs to get split up with the MIAA going to Region 4 or the GLIAC to region 1. Moving the GLIAC to region 1 probably would force the MEC to region 2 or something of that nature since the balance of total schools would be way off at that point.

I have been thinking about that as well, and if the GLIAC came back to SR1, I would think the MEC would almost have to go to SR2.

[IUPNation]

Nevermind. I thought the reply was to Kle (GV).

Do you know of any times a PSAC teams has played an MIAA team outside of IUP in 1999 and West Chester in 2004?

Bloomsburg and California both made trips to Maryville in Semi final games. How did you forget?

:-)

Heck CalU sent their band out there and you all got treated to their fight song “On Top Of Spaghetti”.

[IUPNation]

Doesn't mean they didn't call. We already know you spout lies and mis-truths, why should we trust you when you say they never called?

Do you have the receipts?

[Ram Tough]

Nevermind. I thought the reply was to Kle (GV).

Do you know of any times a PSAC teams has played an MIAA team outside of IUP in 1999 and West Chester in 2004?

You could potentially count Shepherd in 2015, but they were in the MEC at that time.

[IUPNation]

I'm not arguing that at all, but the PSAC is like two conferences in one. If I had my way, the East and West would only meet the last week of the season, and the first three weeks would be for non-conference games.

They could cut one crossover. Two is sufficient and it opens up two weeks to play OOC.

[Ram040506]

I think the idea of a Final 8 coming out of regions and not playing regional finals but getting reseeded into a second bracket is interesting. It would have to go by their original regional seed.

If it was this past season:

1. Grand Valley
2. Angelo State
3. IUP
4. Ferris Bueller
5. West Florida
6. Colorado Mines
7. Shepherd
8. Wingate.

Games would be
Wingate at Grand Valley
Shepherd at Angelo State
Colorado Mines at IUP
West Florida at Ferris Bueller

The winners would then be reseeded with the lowest remaining playingbthe highest remaining and the two middle face off. I hate hard brackets..the top seed remaining should always play the lowest remaining.

The NCAA needs to negotiate better rates for flights.

Ferris was the overall #2 seed in the rankings I think, but yes I think this is the best way forth considering wholesale changes rarely happen. Reseed at the quarterfinals and have a true national playoff from there. To further hammer it home to get the "best" in, Region 3 needs to get split up with the MIAA going to Region 4 or the GLIAC to region 1. Moving the GLIAC to region 1 probably would force the MEC to region 2 or something of that nature since the balance of total schools would be way off at that point.

[IUPNation]

I think the idea of a Final 8 coming out of regions and not playing regional finals but getting reseeded into a second bracket is interesting. It would have to go by their original regional seed.

If it was this past season:

1. Grand Valley
2. Angelo State
3. IUP
4. Ferris Bueller
5. West Florida
6. Colorado Mines
7. Shepherd
8. Wingate.

Games would be
Wingate at Grand Valley
Shepherd at Angelo State
Colorado Mines at IUP
West Florida at Ferris Bueller

The winners would then be reseeded with the lowest remaining playingbthe highest remaining and the two middle face off. I hate hard brackets..the top seed remaining should always play the lowest remaining.

The NCAA needs to negotiate better rates for flights.