Video: Should Division II Overhaul the Playoff System? - with Mike Racy

[Predatory Primates]

How much are students being charged in fees in their tuition to fund athletics? I always thought that just covered the student’s costs to attend sports games. We just showed our student card to get into games.

Yes. At every school, ever.

[GorillaTeacher]

They do pay their profs a little better. Everyone pays better than Pitt.

Except MOSO. MOSO pays less than high schools.

How much are students being charged in fees in their tuition to fund athletics? I always thought that just covered the student’s costs to attend sports games. We just showed our student card to get into games.

Don't know. Its flat rate 3900/semester.

[IUPNation]

This is just blatantly lying lol.

GV doesn't even offer the full allotment of scholarships in all sports lol.

So now you’re not fully funded in foosball? You are all over the place.

It would be interesting to get real numbers for each school. It’s a yearly topic of discussion in the Pee Sack forum.

[Predatory Primates]

Lol. Nation thinks the answer is for the fully funded schools to move to D1 where they could only partially fund in order to accommodate the crappy D2 schools who choose to partially fund.


That sums up who we are arguing with.

[Predatory Primates]

The tuition for IUP is twice what Pitt is, the enrollment is similar. So what is your alma mater paying for?

They do pay their profs a little better. Everyone pays better than Pitt.

[IUPNation]

It is against the law in Kansas for tax payer funds to be used for athletics. So the money our universities and community colleges receive through property tax levies are used for administrative, infrastructure and instruction.
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According to the university, no student athlete receives a full ride athletic scholarship. Of course the way they break it down, some may be getting a high 90% equivalency.

How much are students being charged in fees in their tuition to fund athletics? I always thought that just covered the student’s costs to attend sports games. We just showed our student card to get into games.

[KleShreen]

Yet GV gets all of its scholarship money from the state taxpayers. Isn’t that why the private schools fled the GLIAC because they couldn’t print coupons fast enough to get the players the Meatchicken public’s could offer with actual money.

It’s cute how the haves who get the money easily lecture schools that have to work hard to raise what they do…

This is just blatantly lying lol.

GV doesn't even offer the full allotment of scholarships in all sports lol.

[GorillaTeacher]

The tuition for IUP is twice what Pitt is, the enrollment is similar. So what is your alma mater paying for?

[GorillaTeacher]

It is against the law in Kansas for tax payer funds to be used for athletics. So the money our universities and community colleges receive through property tax levies are used for administrative, infrastructure and instruction.
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According to the university, no student athlete receives a full ride athletic scholarship. Of course the way they break it down, some may be getting a high 90% equivalency.

[IUPNation]

Please provide evidence for this claim. The vast majority of schools pay their athletic scholarships through student fees and private fundraising. Why would GV be any different?

It’s what I heard. Just like Trump would say he heard something….so it has to be true.
Can the haves use their state appropriations for scholarships? We cannot in PA.

So you mean Pitt State students going into hock with student loans are paying fees so the foosball players can get almost a free ride? For real?

[Redwing]

Yet GV gets all of its scholarship money from the state taxpayers. Isn’t that why the private schools fled the GLIAC because they couldn’t print coupons fast enough to get the players the Meatchicken public’s could offer with actual money.

It’s cute how the haves who get the money easily lecture schools that have to work hard to raise what they do…

Please provide the the percentage of GVs budget that comes from the State. I'll give you a hint... it's not all that much (less than 25%...much less.)

[GorillaTeacher]

Yet GV gets all of its scholarship money from the state taxpayers. Isn’t that why the private schools fled the GLIAC because they couldn’t print coupons fast enough to get the players the Meatchicken public’s could offer with actual money.

It’s cute how the haves who get the money easily lecture schools that have to work hard to raise what they do…

Please provide evidence for this claim. The vast majority of schools pay their athletic scholarships through student fees and private fundraising. Why would GV be any different?

[IUPNation]

Agree. Any proposal where the number of total playoff qualifiers decreases is DOA.

Yet that is the best fix. I also think less spots forces schools to up their fund raising game..at least the schools that don’t just get the money handed to them by taxpayers. Why bother getting more money when you get a bid funding the current level and make the playoffs do you tell the alumni how great you are…I can see that flying on a few Pee Sack campuses not named IUP.

The playoffs should be a reward…and the regular season needs to feel more do or die.

Im totally fine with a playoff field comprised only of conference champions.

[IUPNation]

Lowest-funded public school in Michigan.

If the PSAC schools don't have the money to offer the full 36 scholarship allotment the NCAA allows, then drop scholarships all together, play D3, and save money.

Yet GV gets all of its scholarship money from the state taxpayers. Isn’t that why the private schools fled the GLIAC because they couldn’t print coupons fast enough to get the players the Meatchicken public’s could offer with actual money.

It’s cute how the haves who get the money easily lecture schools that have to work hard to raise what they do…

[KleShreen]

Grand Valley is loaded.

Lowest-funded public school in Michigan.

If the PSAC schools don't have the money to offer the full 36 scholarship allotment the NCAA allows, then drop scholarships all together, play D3, and save money.