Playoff seeding regurgitated

[IUPNation]

Tiffin was their no#1 seeded team - not even in the top 10 - SR1 champion should just play the D3 champion -

Tiffin was defeated in the playoffs by the runner up in the Pee Sack who also defeated a lowly GLIAC team in the firstveeek of season debunking the myth that a full GLIAC schedule is still some sort of a gauntlet once past the big boys of GV or Ferris.

[IUPNation]

The equivalent would be if you put all of the #1, #2, #3, and #4 seeds in the same region of March Madness, the 5-6-7-8 seeds in the same region, the 9-10-11-12 seeds in the same region, and the 13-14-15-16 seeds in the same region, guaranteeing that the final four is one 1-4 seed, one 5-8 seed, one 9-12 seed, and one 13-16 seed. That's what D2 is doing with football right now by doing a strictly regional format.

And FCS now revolves around every school in the Dakotastans, Montanastan and Idahostan. Which means everyone else has been pushed into a FCS caste system. I doubt as good as Villanova can be…that we’ll ever see a school from that desolate depressing why do people even live there part of country making a visit to the beautiful civilized suburbs of the Philadelphia Main Line where Villanova is located. Wouldn’t it be nice if all those Cletus Jrs got see where America began?

lol

[KleShreen]

Tiffin was defeated in the playoffs by the runner up in the Pee Sack who also defeated a lowly GLIAC team in the firstveeek of season debunking the myth that a full GLIAC schedule is some sort of gauntlet once past GV or Ferris.

Are you still bragging about arguably your region's best school beating one of the worst teams in Division II football by 11 lol

[KleShreen]

And FCS now revolves around every school in the Dakotastans, Montanastan and Idahostan. Which means everyone else has been pushed into a FCS caste system. I doubt as good as Villanova can be…that we’ll ever see a school from that desolate depressing why do people live there part of country making a visit to the beautiful civilized suburbs of the Philadelphia Main Line where Villanova is located. Wouldn’t it be nice if all those Cletus Jrs got see where America began?

lol

Yea because those Dakota, Montana, and Idaho schools beat the **** out of everyone else. Maybe the rest of the country should figure it out. And I don't know if I'd bring up the Dakotas in your instance, considering you complain about there being too many colleges in Pennsylvania for anyone to be competitive, but NDSU, SDSU, USD, and UND are four of the best teams in FCS football.

[IUPNation]

Are you still bragging about arguably your region's best school beating one of the worst teams in Division II football by 11 lol

So you agree the majority of the GLIAC stinks and your OOC games were more of a challenge than your actual league schedule.

[Brandon]

And FCS now revolves around every school in the Dakotastans, Montanastan and Idahostan.
lol

That's only the case because the Georgia Southerns, James Madisons, and App States of the world reclassified.

[IUPNation]

Yea because those Dakota, Montana, and Idaho schools beat the **** out of everyone else. Maybe the rest of the country should figure it out. And I don't know if I'd bring up the Dakotas in your instance, considering you complain about there being too many colleges in Pennsylvania for anyone to be competitive, but NDSU, SDSU, USD, and UND are four of the best teams in FCS football.

PA has 52 collegiate foosball programs..the most of any state and well outpaces second place Ohio.

PA has the most D2 (17) and D3 (25) programs of any state.

So the competition for any decent players here is stiff in a state with a rapidly dwindling high school population.

Those four FSC schools have the pick of the litter over several states.

[IUPNation]

That's only the case because the Georgia Southerns, James Madisons, and App States of the world reclassified.

So teams rise up when teams that dominated them moved up.

[Predatory Primates]

PA has 52 collegiate foosball programs..the most of any state and well outpaces second place Ohio.

PA has the most D2 (17) and D3 (25) programs of any state.

So the competition for any decent players here is stiff in a state with a rapidly dwindling high school population.

Those four FSC schools have the pick of the litter over several states.

We have been down this road. Per capita, they're pretty close to a lot of states in that regard.

[KleShreen]

PA has 52 collegiate foosball programs..the most of any state and well outpaces second place Ohio.

PA has the most D2 (17) and D3 (25) programs of any state.

So the competition for any decent players here is stiff in a state with a rapidly dwindling high school population.

Those four FSC schools have the pick of the litter over several states.

If the PSAC is competing with D3 schools with recruits, then that should tell you all you need to know.

[KleShreen]

So you agree the majority of the GLIAC stinks and your OOC games were more of a challenge than your actual league schedule.

Do I think facing the #2, #19, and #20 schools in OOC is stronger than the league schedule? Uh......yea. That would be the case in every league in the country.

Here's the difference. In the GLIAC, Wayne State and Northern Michigan suck. In the PSAC, Wayne State is an over .500 team and Northern Michigan beats the brakes off of Millersville, Clarion, Shippensburg, Bloomsburg, Edinboro, and Mercyhurst lol.

[Predatory Primates]

I understand the points and the arguments, but in reality, no sport or tournament that has groups, regions or whatever other division ends up with equality across the board.

There is always a "group of death" in the world cup.

Even the NCAA basketball tournament rarely ends up with the 4 best teams in the final four, and in recent years has ended up with many head scratching entrants into the final four. And there are always teams would would have won other regions, but had to play Kentucky (or UCLA, or Gonzaga, or UCONN or Duke, etc.) in the second round.

Even in other D2 tournaments where they reseed with 8 teams, those sports have 8 "regions", so they reseed at the same point, when a winner has emerged from each region - not before.

It always sucks when your team loses. Worse when you have a really good team. Worse still when they had to play another really good team in the first round. I get it. But nearly everything in our world today revolves around money, and even short term money choices over long term value. D2 football, even at the big schools, is not a money earner. Therefore they are subjected to the rules of the group with the money. If the schools who are party to the group don't call for change, en masse, then change won't come. If the schools truly aren't happy, they have the choice to either leave D2 or the NCAA. Since most won't move up or play NAIA, they are agreeing to the choices.

Since there is not a line for FCS nor NAIA, let's just assume that the schools we cheer for are onboard with the system. We might as well be too.

**and sticks the landing from dismounting off of soapbox**

There are entire conferences who are working to get this changed. A growing group of them, in fact. So your agree by default assumption is wrong.

[Bearhof]

Without reseeding it could have been LR vs KU and HU vs Mines in the semis followed by a lopsided final.
If reseeding the semis makes sense why doesn’t reseeding the 4 regions after the teams qualify within their regions??

What you should lobby for is every the SR3 one seed goes to SR1 and the SR3 two seed goes to SR4 and the SR three seed goes to SR2. Then there could be a final four with four SR3 teams in it if your four seed could somehow become the winner of SR3. Not sure that would work but there has to be a way somehow to get all four SR3 teams in the semifinals but definitely three of them.

[Bearhof]

What you should lobby for is every the SR3 one seed goes to SR1 and the SR3 two seed goes to SR4 and the SR three seed goes to SR2. Then there could be a final four with four SR3 teams in it if your four seed could somehow become the winner of SR3. Not sure that would work but there has to be a way somehow to get all four SR3 teams in the semifinals but definitely three of them.

You would definitely want to secure home field just to be fair also.

[IUPNation]

We have been down this road. Per capita, they're pretty close to a lot of states in that regard.

There are as many people over 65 as there are under 18…it’s an old state. The GLIAC and MIAA alone barely make 17 teams across how many states?