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Great list and always fun to see how it comes together. Interesting take that 10 of the 38 Harlon Hill finalists did not make the top 100:
__Isaiah Freman QB Lincoln Dustin Noller QB Limestone Cade Peterson QB Grand Valley State Gavin Sukup QB Indianapolis Brandon Alt QB Bemidji State Chance Fuller QB CSU Pueblo Kenny Hrncir QB UT Permian Basin Jack Strand QB Minnesota Moorhead Kyle Walljasper QB Minnesota Duluth Idris Lawrence RB Notre Dame
Not surprisingly majority are QB's and you can only put so many QB's on a list like this.
__Name School Height Weight Top 100 P-Comp P-Att INT YDS TD R-Att R-Yds R-TD Zach Zebrowski Central Missouri 6'2" 208 1st 417 602 5 5157 61 101 533 2 John Matocha Colorado School of Mines 5'11" 180 2nd 333 471 7 4298 43 106 449 5 Sammy Edwards Valdosta State 6'2" 188 Squad 327 494 11 4223 34 98 271 6 Braden Gleason Emporia State 6'0" 191 Squad 382 517 3 4178 47 66 230 4 Brayden Long Slippery Rock 6'2" 206 Squad 312 450 6 3808 35 63 74 5 Gage Porter Southern Nazerne 5'11" 225 Squad 122 227 12 1864 10 262 2162 28 Patrick Shegog Delta State 6'0" 200 Squad 188 300 2 2618 32 108 690 12 Isaiah Freman Lincoln 6'2" 210 NA 151 264 9 2319 25 117 499 6 Dustin Noller Limestone 6'1" 205 NA 229 354 5 3009 31 49 13 3 Cade Peterson Grand Valley State 6'4" 223 NA 151 241 8 2116 20 92 425 6 Gavin Sukup Indianapolis 6'1" 181 NA 195 293 8 2716 25 96 276 7 Brandon Alt Bemidji State 6'2" 220 NA 226 376 9 2988 26 33 39 0 Chance Fuller CSU Pueblo 6'3" 195 NA 242 384 7 2910 34 20 -42 0 Kenny Hrncir UT Permian Basin 6'0" 195 NA 196 354 9 2878 30 149 682 8 Jack Strand Minnesota Moorhead 6'5" 220 NA 370 550 10 3914 36 78 -49 1 Kyle Walljasper Minnesota Duluth 6'1" 232 NA 118 202 3 1580 22 166 1071 16
More surprisingly, 14 of the 36 Cliff Harris finalists did not make the top 100 which had 46 defensive players on it:
_Position Name Height Weight School DB Aaron Davis 5-11 180 Wheeling LB Abe Swanson 6-1 220 Grand Valley DB Amos Coleman III 5-11 185 Texas A&M-Kingsville DL Andre Jefferson 6-2 275 Lenoir-Rhyne DB Daniel Bone III 6-0 195 CSU-Pueblo LB Devon Roush 6-1 215 East Central LB John Ross Maye 6-0 230 Lenoir-Rhyne DB Josh Stokes 5-10 180 Slippery Rock DB Joshua Heyward 6-2 195 Benedict DL Justin Thomas 6-2 246 Indianapolis LB Kendall Lightfoot 6-1 240 Western Colorado DB Major Williams 6-1 190 Carson-Newman DB Tre Morrison 6-2 185 Wingate DB Wyryor Noil 6-0 185 Central Missouri
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Originally posted by BulldogFan View PostMore surprisingly, 14 of the 36 Cliff Harris finalists did not make the top 100 which had 46 defensive players on it:
Who was part of the Cliff Harris process that you feel should have been on the defense, and who would you remove from the defense to include them?
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Originally posted by BulldogFan View PostMore surprisingly, 14 of the 36 Cliff Harris finalists did not make the top 100 which had 46 defensive players on it:
Based upon your post, I was curious how their list could have deviated so far from our list, so I looked up the list of finalists for the Cliff Harris. When I looked up their list, it looked remarkably similar to the Elite 100. In fact, only four players were finalists for the Cliff Harris award and were not a member of our defense. One of those players, Rossy Moore, is from Division 3 Mount Union and obviously not eligible for the D2Football Elite 100.
Is it possible you were looking at the wrong list?
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Bulldog....looking at the HH nominees, the 10 of them....9 are QB's. First off..we already have 7 QB's on our Elite 100. We can't have like 16 QB's....that would be absurd. Second, those players are nominated by their SID....they weren't selected by their league as the top guys or the region, etc. If we are taking a total of 7 QB's...I don't have any of those names ahead of ours, if I'm going to be real candid.
When players are nominated for an award by their school..it's them pushing that name forward.
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Originally posted by BulldogFan View PostGreat list and always fun to see how it comes together. Interesting take that 10 of the 38 Harlon Hill finalists did not make the top 100:
__Isaiah Freman QB Lincoln Dustin Noller QB Limestone Cade Peterson QB Grand Valley State Gavin Sukup QB Indianapolis Brandon Alt QB Bemidji State Chance Fuller QB CSU Pueblo Kenny Hrncir QB UT Permian Basin Jack Strand QB Minnesota Moorhead Kyle Walljasper QB Minnesota Duluth Idris Lawrence RB Notre Dame
Not surprisingly majority are QB's and you can only put so many QB's on a list like this.
__Name School Height Weight Top 100 P-Comp P-Att INT YDS TD R-Att R-Yds R-TD Zach Zebrowski Central Missouri 6'2" 208 1st 417 602 5 5157 61 101 533 2 John Matocha Colorado School of Mines 5'11" 180 2nd 333 471 7 4298 43 106 449 5 Sammy Edwards Valdosta State 6'2" 188 Squad 327 494 11 4223 34 98 271 6 Braden Gleason Emporia State 6'0" 191 Squad 382 517 3 4178 47 66 230 4 Brayden Long Slippery Rock 6'2" 206 Squad 312 450 6 3808 35 63 74 5 Gage Porter Southern Nazerne 5'11" 225 Squad 122 227 12 1864 10 262 2162 28 Patrick Shegog Delta State 6'0" 200 Squad 188 300 2 2618 32 108 690 12 Isaiah Freman Lincoln 6'2" 210 NA 151 264 9 2319 25 117 499 6 Dustin Noller Limestone 6'1" 205 NA 229 354 5 3009 31 49 13 3 Cade Peterson Grand Valley State 6'4" 223 NA 151 241 8 2116 20 92 425 6 Gavin Sukup Indianapolis 6'1" 181 NA 195 293 8 2716 25 96 276 7 Brandon Alt Bemidji State 6'2" 220 NA 226 376 9 2988 26 33 39 0 Chance Fuller CSU Pueblo 6'3" 195 NA 242 384 7 2910 34 20 -42 0 Kenny Hrncir UT Permian Basin 6'0" 195 NA 196 354 9 2878 30 149 682 8 Jack Strand Minnesota Moorhead 6'5" 220 NA 370 550 10 3914 36 78 -49 1 Kyle Walljasper Minnesota Duluth 6'1" 232 NA 118 202 3 1580 22 166 1071 16
More surprisingly, 14 of the 36 Cliff Harris finalists did not make the top 100 which had 46 defensive players on it:
_Position Name Height Weight School DB Aaron Davis 5-11 180 Wheeling LB Abe Swanson 6-1 220 Grand Valley DB Amos Coleman III 5-11 185 Texas A&M-Kingsville DL Andre Jefferson 6-2 275 Lenoir-Rhyne DB Daniel Bone III 6-0 195 CSU-Pueblo LB Devon Roush 6-1 215 East Central LB John Ross Maye 6-0 230 Lenoir-Rhyne DB Josh Stokes 5-10 180 Slippery Rock DB Joshua Heyward 6-2 195 Benedict DL Justin Thomas 6-2 246 Indianapolis LB Kendall Lightfoot 6-1 240 Western Colorado DB Major Williams 6-1 190 Carson-Newman DB Tre Morrison 6-2 185 Wingate DB Wyryor Noil 6-0 185 Central Missouri
It comes down to numbers at QB and I don't know who all picks the Cliff Harris list or even see it. Perhaps Brandon did but that list never came up in my discussions with Brandon or any others who help with the list.
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