July 1 - Moving Day 2024

[EastStroud13]

More or less my point. We had to pander to the small schools because they couldn't hang with the big boys. Having two DIs is silly.

Could really insert any FCS school in there though. None of them are competing with Ohio State, despite being DI.

If North Dakota State doesn't belong in DI, then there are less than 100 schools than belong in DI. At that point you are just breaking off the power teams and keeping the rest of the subdivisions the way they are.

[Bballfan]

Free to read once you register....but sad commentary on where we are today with D1 athletics...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...march-madness/

[crixus]

Kudos to Texas Tech on their win over Arkansas. I doubt they'll beat Florida, but I hope so. Update: Florida won, 84-79.
*I picked Duke to win it all in my bracket.

[ctrabs74]

Nope. And the rich just get richer. The upsets in the tournament is where "March Madness" gets its name. Not really interested in seeing chalk. No magical tournament runs in that.

The "highest" remaining seed left in this year's tournament? Number 3 seed Texas Tech ... and that's the only "surprise" in this year's tournament. It feels a little lackluster this season, to be honest.

[Bballfan]

Meanwhile, we're on the verge of one of the most "chalk-iest" Final Fours in recent memory. Hardly any non-Power Five teams making it to the Sweet 16 this year, and it doesn't strike me as a good sign for the future.

Nope. And the rich just get richer. The upsets in the tournament is where "March Madness" gets its name. Not really interested in seeing chalk. No magical tournament runs in that.

[ctrabs74]

More or less my point. We had to pander to the small schools because they couldn't hang with the big boys. Having two DIs is silly.

Could really insert any FCS school in there though. None of them are competing with Ohio State, despite being DI.

Meanwhile, we're on the verge of one of the most "chalk-iest" Final Fours in recent memory. Hardly any non-Power Five teams making it to the Sweet 16 this year, and it doesn't strike me as a good sign for the future.

[SW_Mustang]

Interesting you bring up North Dakota State considering how dominant they have been in FCS. Arguably DI is exactly where they should be. Saint Francis is a totally different story.

More or less my point. We had to pander to the small schools because they couldn't hang with the big boys. Having two DIs is silly.

Could really insert any FCS school in there though. None of them are competing with Ohio State, despite being DI.

[EastStroud13]

It's an ego thing. Most of the people beating their chests about being DI don't actually care about the sports. They think the title makes them better than everyone else when in reality, it has no real tangible value.

In theory, the divisional structure should be about optimizing competition. Allowing St. Francis or North Dakota State to compete for the same basketball trophy as Duke and UConn is silly. A lot of these DIs could drop down a level or two, use the savings to restructure/invest in their programs, and actually compete. But they'd rather just parade around telling people how great they are without actually being great at anything.

IMO - if a school has to tell us they're DI, then they shouldn't be. If Alabama, Clemson, or Michigan constantly told us they were DI - it would be embarrassing. I think the same should apply.

Interesting you bring up North Dakota State considering how dominant they have been in FCS. Arguably DI is exactly where they should be. Saint Francis is a totally different story.

[SW_Mustang]

Is it really worth it to move up so that your basketball team might be a 16 seed sacrifice once a decade or so?

It's an ego thing. Most of the people beating their chests about being DI don't actually care about the sports. They think the title makes them better than everyone else when in reality, it has no real tangible value.

In theory, the divisional structure should be about optimizing competition. Allowing St. Francis or North Dakota State to compete for the same basketball trophy as Duke and UConn is silly. A lot of these DIs could drop down a level or two, use the savings to restructure/invest in their programs, and actually compete. But they'd rather just parade around telling people how great they are without actually being great at anything.

IMO - if a school has to tell us they're DI, then they shouldn't be. If Alabama, Clemson, or Michigan constantly told us they were DI - it would be embarrassing. I think the same should apply.

[SW_Mustang]

I have never heard of it before, but outside my regional area I don't know my D3 schools.

Curious if there will be more "D1 schools" decide to "opt out" and follow the St. Francis path? With constraints on operating budgets, and the constant change that is occurring with the NCAA now on a daily basis, does it even make sense for small private schools to try and keep up?

Hartford did in 2022 (I believe) - what I found funny was nobody was going to games, yet suddenly everyone had an opinion on the move.

IMO - the NCAA needs to restructure the divisions. It won't happen, because there's too much money in some places and too much bureaucracy in others, and these smaller schools really have their identity wrapped up in "being DI" to accept change.

[IUPNation]

I have never heard of it before, but outside my regional area I don't know my D3 schools.

Curious if there will be more "D1 schools" decide to "opt out" and follow the St. Francis path? With constraints on operating budgets, and the constant change that is occurring with the NCAA now on a daily basis, does it even make sense for small private schools to try and keep up?

I have lived in suburban Philly my whole life and have never set foot in Bryn Athyn. Unless you are affiliated with the New Church, you wouldn’t know that school even existed.

I see more schools falling down. They just can’t compete. I won’t be shocked if some former D2 schools come back to D2.

Is it really worth it to move up so that your basketball team might be a 16 seed sacrifice once a decade or so?

[Bballfan]

A school not even on the radar in the Philadelphia metro area. Most people here have no clue this school even exists much less had sports teams.

I have never heard of it before, but outside my regional area I don't know my D3 schools.

Curious if there will be more "D1 schools" decide to "opt out" and follow the St. Francis path? With constraints on operating budgets, and the constant change that is occurring with the NCAA now on a daily basis, does it even make sense for small private schools to try and keep up?

[IUPNation]

Official now. School release.

https://brynathynathletics.com/news/...hool-year.aspx

A school not even on the radar in the Philadelphia metro area. Most people here have no clue this school even exists much less had sports teams.

[IUPNation]

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[Bballfan]

With an operating deficit of almost $50 million since 2007, how exactly is this school even still open?!?!? And with no sports who exactly will attend it?

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia...ge-sports-cut/