OT: D1 CFP

[shipfbfan1]

Which is exactly why an eight-team playoff makes sense. Put in the P5 conference winners, a Group of 5 team, and two at-large. If you can't qualify for a playoff under that system, you really wouldn't have much to whine about. One regular season game is not necessarily a predictor of what would happen in the playoff. I'm not sure Clemson is better than Ohio State, but Clemson won Saturday. I believe LSU beat Bama by four and Auburn by three.

I agree that 8 teams is the magic number, This year you would have had the following: Wisconsin @ LSU, Baylor @ Ohio State, Oregon @ Clemson and Georgia @ Baylor. This would probably make these guys think twice about sitting out of post season when they are chasing a national title. How many guys really sit out of the CFP Semifinals or National Championship game compared to the other Bowl Games.

[Ship69]

Can't expand without spreading access otherwise it will create an argument for the 2nd and 3rd place teams, which is what created bowl expansion 20 years ago. But the P5 conferences would rather consolidate the wealth and have a 2 loss Auburn team play than allow for the chance that the next Central Florida proves itself on the field. You know, like every other playoff known to man.

Which is exactly why an eight-team playoff makes sense. Put in the P5 conference winners, a Group of 5 team, and two at-large. If you can't qualify for a playoff under that system, you really wouldn't have much to whine about. One regular season game is not necessarily a predictor of what would happen in the playoff. I'm not sure Clemson is better than Ohio State, but Clemson won Saturday. I believe LSU beat Bama by four and Auburn by three.

[Fightingscot82]

Can't expand without spreading access otherwise it will create an argument for the 2nd and 3rd place teams, which is what created bowl expansion 20 years ago. But the P5 conferences would rather consolidate the wealth and have a 2 loss Auburn team play than allow for the chance that the next Central Florida proves itself on the field. You know, like every other playoff known to man.

[Ship69]

I've always favored a CFP in major college football. I will say that. HOWEVER, the way things are now in competitive terms I don't think expanding it will make any difference as to who the eventual champion is. Those 4 semifinal teams we saw yesterday are on a different level from teams ranked in the lower top 10 or lower teens, just like the Shepherds and IUP's aren't on the level of UWF, MSU, or Ferris State.

Oklahoma was not at the level of the other three semifinal teams. From the SEC alone, Bama, Georgia, Florida, and Auburn would have a good chance of beating them. I think Wisconsin or Penn State could give them a game as well.

[IUPNation]

They need to go to a 6 team field. Top two seeds get a first round bye and the first week is play on the campus of the higher seeded team. Semi Finals in the two bowl games and the title game after that.

It should work.

[GoldenRam94]

An expansion to that level would absolutely destroy the Bowl Games.

I am all for an expansion to 6 teams with the top 2 getting a Bye. I also think that is a reality as soon as the SEC gets screwed.

To have a 16 team field is just not going to happen, and to be honest it is not needed.

[ShoNuff]

That was the play I meant to refer to. I ain't no expert but it looked like targeting to me.

I think it was targeting as well. However, the complaint from the Buckeye fans is that the Clemson QB duck down right before he was struck. But to me, the defender was leading with the top of his head regardless. So I think it was pretty cut and dry...

[iupgroundhog]

Many a Buckeye fan are also complaining about the targeting ejection. That really seemed to swing momentum -- and took a Round 1 defender out of the game.

That was the play I meant to refer to. I ain't no expert but it looked like targeting to me.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Correct. At game speed it was definitely incomplete, although it was called complete. I thought it was still incomplete on the replay although it was really close. For how long in real time did the receiver appear to "have possession" clutching the ball a foot and a half from his body? If you slow it down enough it can look like he has control but I don't think he did.

Many a Buckeye fan are also complaining about the targeting ejection. That really seemed to swing momentum -- and took a Round 1 defender out of the game.

[Fightingscot82]

I've always favored a CFP in major college football. I will say that. HOWEVER, the way things are now in competitive terms I don't think expanding it will make any difference as to who the eventual champion is. Those 4 semifinal teams we saw yesterday are on a different level from teams ranked in the lower top 10 or lower teens, just like the Shepherds and IUP's aren't on the level of UWF, MSU, or Ferris State.

And every year it seems there's a team who seemingly doesn't belong and nominees for who should have been there. I bet they're afraid to expand to 8 teams because that would strengthen the argument for Group of teams. Maybe 6 teams to give P5 auto qualifiers plus the top G5?

[iupgroundhog]

I've always favored a CFP in major college football. I will say that. HOWEVER, the way things are now in competitive terms I don't think expanding it will make any difference as to who the eventual champion is. Those 4 semifinal teams we saw yesterday are on a different level from teams ranked in the lower top 10 or lower teens, just like the Shepherds and IUP's aren't on the level of UWF, MSU, or Ferris State.

[iupgroundhog]

That was a tough call. At game speed it was incomplete. At ultra slow motion a case could be made it was a catch. As the great poet Mike Tomlin says ... he doesn't even know what a catch actually is anymore.

Correct. At game speed it was definitely incomplete, although it was called complete. I thought it was still incomplete on the replay although it was really close. For how long in real time did the receiver appear to "have possession" clutching the ball a foot and a half from his body? If you slow it down enough it can look like he has control but I don't think he did.

[iupgroundhog]

The nightcap was as exciting of a game as you can get in college football. That's going to be a tough one for OSU to swallow. Instead of starting up 28-0 they kept stalling in the redzone and took three FGs to open up a 16-0 lead instead.

Oklahoma ... other than its record didn't belong. They got embarrased. It's kind of like putting SR1 in the Final Four (majority of years it gets embarrassed). Oklahoma wouldn't have been better than 4th or 5th had it played in the SEC. How a Final Four team gives up 49 points in one half tells the story. Typical Big 12 defense.

As for the format ... follow the money. I assume they'll keep tweaking it as the years go by.

Reminded me of IUP. What killed tOSU were the two penalties - roughing the kicker (personal foul) and roughing the passer. The roughing the kicker penalty changed the game. I thought Clemson lucked out. The ball definitely bounced their way in that game.

[ShoNuff]

That was a tough call. At game speed it was incomplete. At ultra slow motion a case could be made it was a catch. As the great poet Mike Tomlin says ... he doesn't even know what a catch actually is anymore.

The final play was either a blown route or a blown read. Opinion seems to vary. If you think this board is tough ... take a glance at the OSU Twitter and message boards. Goodness.

I just took a look at the comments via #Ohiostate.....wow....

[ShoNuff]

That was a tough call. At game speed it was incomplete. At ultra slow motion a case could be made it was a catch. As the great poet Mike Tomlin says ... he doesn't even know what a catch actually is anymore.

The final play was either a blown route or a blown read. Opinion seems to vary. If you think this board is tough ... take a glance at the OSU Twitter and message boards. Goodness.

Please don't quote me, but I think I heard that the WR "stated" he broke off his route because he thought Fields was scrambling. I will go at take a look at OSU Twitter...