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  • #16
    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    It's up to the coach (assuming they never took a redshirt in the past). Scholarships are one-year deals. If you under-perform or cause problems, etc., they can tell you you're off the team or off scholarship.
    Semester of remote learning would not be that costly.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by IUP412 View Post

      Semester of remote learning would not be that costly.
      The issue is the schools aren't discounting for remote learning other than taking away the room/board and meal plans. Still looking at close to $9k

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      • #18
        Originally posted by shipfbfan1 View Post

        The issue is the schools aren't discounting for remote learning other than taking away the room/board and meal plans. Still looking at close to $9k
        Yeah because you still have to pay the academic advisors, career counselors, maintain the buildings and grounds, etc. A surprising few positions can be sacrificed.

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        • #19
          If schools have students on campus . Big if I guess but with school starting mid aug they have to announce that soon.......but it the students are there....whats the difference in having sports....other than saving some money. If students attend campus ....maybe because the schools need them to....how much of cancelling is budget related i wonder.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by EdinboroFB View Post
            If schools have students on campus . Big if I guess but with school starting mid aug they have to announce that soon.......but it the students are there....whats the difference in having sports....other than saving some money. If students attend campus ....maybe because the schools need them to....how much of cancelling is budget related i wonder.
            The schools need students paying tuition and fees to cover all their overhead. There are a lot of employees who can't be laid off on short notice and a lot of debt payments to be made on the housing built in the last 15 years. Online covers the tuition side but there's the housing revenue that is part of the budget. Without it there's a big hole. We still don't know about state appropriation cuts.

            For sports, I don't know how you make it work for August. Right now there is a duty to test all participants - and with that a big cost plus all other mitigation costs. With revenue uncertainty, its an easy cut to reduce expenses on travel and equipment. To me its just not worth the risk. Now, if we're back on the decline in the fall its worth discussing winter sports. It's probably going to have to go season by season.

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            • #21
              U of Akron canning half its faculty

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RocknTheSnackBar View Post
                U of Akron canning half its faculty
                Wow

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                • #23
                  Look'n for a good lawyer. I have intention to sue China Covid factory for "Lack of Football PTSD". Oh the humanities, how we will suffer.

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                  • #24

                    Tech problem...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                      The odds of D2 playing in 2020 are getting closer to zero by the hour.

                      The interesting angle is how this effects the 2021 season.

                      The 2020 seniors who are about to lose their season will get granted another year. Many will come back. Some will say screw it and move along.

                      However, they'll have a senior class coming back and yet another freshmen class coming in. As our (PSAC) programs are funded largely by our checkbooks .... only so much of that coin to go around.


                      2021 assumes, of course, we aren't all dead.
                      It will depend on the school. Apparently the University of Wisconsin told their spring sport athletes thanks but no thanks. If you would have used your final year in the spring of 2020 you are done. You are not sticking around for the extra year.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by chapmaja View Post

                        It will depend on the school. Apparently the University of Wisconsin told their spring sport athletes thanks but no thanks. If you would have used your final year in the spring of 2020 you are done. You are not sticking around for the extra year.
                        Life lesson.

                        Cemetery's full of irreplaceable dead people.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                          The schools need students paying tuition and fees to cover all their overhead. There are a lot of employees who can't be laid off on short notice and a lot of debt payments to be made on the housing built in the last 15 years. Online covers the tuition side but there's the housing revenue that is part of the budget. Without it there's a big hole. We still don't know about state appropriation cuts.
                          West Chester's situation is a little different. University Student Housing is a division of the WCU Foundation. They spot lease land from the school/state and built new residence halls and apartments. So that organization has NO revenue from students this fall, or this past spring for that matter, but it still has the payments for the construction costs.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
                            Why not just move this foosball season to March.....the USFL and spring foosball was really fun back in the day. My parents had season tickets for the Philadelphia Stars...a lot of great fun and memories.
                            I believe that's the plan as long as things continue to go as planned. I do worry that with so many sports crammed into 4-5 months if there will be issues finding available officials. Things were bad before.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Horror Child View Post
                              West Chester's situation is a little different. University Student Housing is a division of the WCU Foundation. They spot lease land from the school/state and built new residence halls and apartments. So that organization has NO revenue from students this fall, or this past spring for that matter, but it still has the payments for the construction costs.
                              It's very similar to how it is for Cal, Clarion, and IUP. Edinboro's housing was a foundation project but the university bought the project so they could refinance the debt. It's virtually all the same - the revenue pays the debt load and little else. With a big loss in revenue then they have to find the money elsewhere. It's a good thing WCU is sitting on roughly $200 million.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                                It's very similar to how it is for Cal, Clarion, and IUP. Edinboro's housing was a foundation project but the university bought the project so they could refinance the debt. It's virtually all the same - the revenue pays the debt load and little else. With a big loss in revenue then they have to find the money elsewhere. It's a good thing WCU is sitting on roughly $200 million.

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