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Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
I think the goal initially was 1 accreditation. I don't know if that changed after talking to middle states.
I think the ncaa will allow it.
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It was reported the aim was "to retain the unique and personal on-campus experiences, services and faculty-student interactions that have historically reinforced our campus identities, brands and value propositions". Schools were to maintain their names, but now we find out they hired a branding and marketing firm to come up with a new university name. We were told some schools were cutting staff, now know all are cutting personnel. Who knows when the other shoe will drop. I bet someone knows how athletics will pan out, and they are playing their cards close to the vest.
PSCUF President, Dr. Jamie Martin is probably right about "by this standard, it seems to be further along than just in planning." These scheduled town halls are just a dog and pony show, the end has already been written somewhere. It will be force fed to everyone, and then we vomit it back. The ink is dry.
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Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
Yes! I would say Athletics is one of the easier parts of this Integration atleast initially. Now over time, they may decide to consolidate some teams depending on costs. But not initially.
I'd be more worried about how the funding gets distributed for sports when it's 1 budget. Like for football, will they balance scholarships or allow 1 school to have more.
Like in the West. Cal generally has a better football team than Edinboro and Clarion. Will that balance out? Will more resources go to Clarion?
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Do those schools have separate accreditations or is it a unified accreditation?
Why would the NCAA not approve keeping individual athletic programs? Conflict of interest? Seriously. Why is it an issue?
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Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
The whole this school keeps that program, etc...you mean in person? Because there will be 1 school when this is done. 1 budget. 1 bank account presumably.
So say Program A is offered in person on campus 1. Students at Campus 2 and Campus 3 would likely be able to enroll in that program via hybrid or online classes in some cases. Maybe it's successful and they expand it in person at the other 2? So ability to take classes at the other schools should increase.
I know it's tough to see this now...but Integration means campuses exist, but it's 1 school. Not 3 separate. And profits or losses are shared.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Do those schools have separate accreditations or is it a unified accreditation?
Why would the NCAA not approve keeping individual athletic programs? Conflict of interest? Seriously. Why is it an issue?
I think the ncaa will allow it.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Funny thing is, there's no way for the schools to be truly bankrupt. Cheyney was allowed to run on a deficit for years and ended up accumulating operational debt of twice its operating budget. Only the legislature can close a University. But... with this plan a campus can be closed. But they won't.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's just poor research. There are several examples. University of Southern Illinois is one. Fairleigh Dickinson University is another. Long Island University ran two athletic departments until recently.
I'd be more worried about how the funding gets distributed for sports when it's 1 budget. Like for football, will they balance scholarships or allow 1 school to have more.
Like in the West. Cal generally has a better football team than Edinboro and Clarion. Will that balance out? Will more resources go to Clarion?
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Ok, so this is pretty earth-shaking. Dishes are falling off the shelf out in Mifflinburg.
I guess the benefit to Bloom is that they will get to have more administrators stay in town.
Hey, let's hope the NCAA allows for the schools to keep their full complements of intercollegiate sports. If they don't, what then?
At least LHU will likely get to keep all of their sports management and athletic training majors so that would be good for athletics. I still think LHU should drop d2 football.
Could my prognostication come true that these schools go to sprint football? The league could be called the integrated/consolidated athletic association ... of Pennsylvania
Bloom should get to keep the Supply Chain Management track.
All of these releases are coming out of LH. Does anybody in Bloomsburg care (beyond Bart)?
So say Program A is offered in person on campus 1. Students at Campus 2 and Campus 3 would likely be able to enroll in that program via hybrid or online classes in some cases. Maybe it's successful and they expand it in person at the other 2? So ability to take classes at the other schools should increase.
I know it's tough to see this now...but Integration means campuses exist, but it's 1 school. Not 3 separate. And profits or losses are shared.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
That's just poor research. There are several examples. University of Southern Illinois is one. Fairleigh Dickinson University is another. Long Island University ran two athletic departments until recently.
Why would the NCAA not approve keeping individual athletic programs? Conflict of interest? Seriously. Why is it an issue?
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Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
The Universities have no leverage in this. They think they do...but these schools have been failing financially for so long that some will be bankrupt within a few years if this Integration doesn't happen. In some cases, it's their only hope of survival. I'd say probably 4 schools fall into that category atleast especially with covid.
That said, the Integration itself is a concern. And the plan is going to have to be very good to work. There will be a price tag that is pretty high and we'll see how it gets funded. With that price tag, savings are going to be tough to come by early.
So instead of fighting this for political reasons, groups need to see this as a means of survival and help develop the plan..
There is a huge misconception that this is the Chancellors plan..It isn't. He's letting each triad develop it.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
Perhaps we have been overlooking one important postulate:
To integrate requires integration.
- Lao-Tzu groundhog
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