2022 Scholarship Thread

[Fightingscot82]

Read & have at it.

School	Total Full Scholarship Equivalencies	Football Scholarship Equivalencies	Football Scholarships as % of Men's	Basketball Scholarship Equivalencies	Basketball Scholarships as % of Men's	Football & Basketball Scholarships as % of Men's
Bloomsburg	38.86	8.98	49.75%	2.67	14.79%	64.54%
California	51.78	21.18	68.79%	6.25	20.30%	89.09%
Clarion	57.63	12.3	40.33%	6.56	21.51%	61.84%
East Stroudsburg	51.27	9.96	37.93%	6.60	25.13%	63.06%
Edinboro	43.68	8.83	39.23%	3.78	16.73%	55.80%
Gannon	98.36	25.76	47.08%	7.40	13.53%	60.61%
IUP	69.32	18.84	61.35%	7.37	24.00%	85.35%
Kutztown	36.77	8.32	46.72%	4.20	23.58%	70.30%
Lock Haven	36.61	4.56	25.73%	1.46	8.24%	33.97%
Mercyhurst	113.25	34.54	34.32%	8.21	8.16%	42.48%
Millersville	44.33	11.52	53.28%	4.33	20.03%	73.31%
Seton Hill	72.8	15.31	35.47%	3.78	8.76%	44.23%
Shepherd	40.4	16.3	67.19%	5.62	23.17%	90.35%
Shippensburg	56.53	12.07	42.56%	4.91	17.31%	59.87%
Slippery Rock	54.86	17.23	62.61%	6.60	23.98%	86.59%
West Chester	50.57	8.33	35.86%	6.36	27.38%	39.47%
			Mansfield		47.80%
			Pitt Johnstown		31.35%

***One thing to point out is that the private schools (Gannon, Mercyhurst, Seton Hill) have far more teams so their % will always be lower.***

[Ram040506]

FACTS

[IUPbigINDIANS]

These football numbers are awful.

[Horror Child]

***One thing to point out is that the private schools (Gannon, Mercyhurst, Seton Hill) have far more teams so their % will always be lower.***

Far more than what?


In general, damn IUP rule.

[Ship69]

What is the source of this information? Just curious. If the football numbers are accurate, I can see why Lock Haven is sinking, and the guy at Kutztown is performing miracles.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

What is the source of this information? Just curious. If the football numbers are accurate, I can see why Lock Haven is sinking, and the guy at Kutztown is performing miracles.

As always, this is a 'part' of the story.

[IUP PSAC Fan]

As always, this is a 'part' of the story.

These numbers are 100% WRONG! Wow this is a joke. LMAO!!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

These numbers are 100% WRONG! Wow this is a joke. LMAO!!

I'm sure these numbers are correct -- for this particular field of measure.

However, as is tradition, they don't tell the whole story.

Why bother reporting them if the actual 'total athletic aid' numbers can't be reported for whatever reason?

It's not even worth listing the privates -- between blue-light-special tuition, etc., who knows what those numbers actually mean. At face value, Mercyhurst Football should want a refund.

[Fightingscot82]

These numbers are 100% WRONG! Wow this is a joke. LMAO!!

Complaints can be directed at the PSAC and NCAA.

Also, come right at my face with real information that contradicts this. Not alternative facts. Not what some person told you in the IUP tailgate lot. Not what you remember from attending IUP years ago.

[IUPNation]

I thought Curt had upped IUP's into the mid 20's?

Mon Valley U is going to have to share that foosball money with it's two lesser siblings. It's going to happen.

[Fightingscot82]

I'm sure these numbers are correct -- for this particular field of measure.

However, as is tradition, they don't tell the whole story.

Why bother reporting them if the actual 'total athletic aid' numbers can't be reported for whatever reason?

It's not even worth listing the privates -- between blue-light-special tuition, etc., who knows what those numbers actually mean. At face value, Mercyhurst Football should want a refund.

Athletic aid is athletic aid. The parts not measured are things athletics doesn't totally control like employee tuition waivers, academic scholarships, etc. The gray area I assume you're alluding to are fee waivers and tuition reduction waivers (ex: SRU has a program that lowers out of state tuition if you have a 3.0 GPA). My only issue with fee waivers is WHO is offering them - financial aid or the coach? If its the coach deciding who gets them, then it should be counted as athletic aid. If its a need-based program the financial aid office runs, then it shouldn't count.

Also, A LOT of kids playing PSAC football qualify for government need-based grants (Pell, PHEAA, WV State Higher Ed Grant). In PA, if a player's family makes under $50k and the kid files a FAFSA, he gets $6,895 from the feds and $4,254 from Pennsylvania or $3,200 from WV if they're a WV resident attending Shepherd. That's on top of football money and anything else.

So yeah, this chart doesn't show ALL the money the player is getting. Just what football controls.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I thought Curt had upped IUP's into the mid 20's?

Mon Valley U is going to have to share that foosball money with it's two lesser siblings. It's going to happen.

He did ... but, that was years ago. As we've discussed for years and years, IUP's core fan base is getting older by the day. Many have died off over the past several years. With them went their yearly donations. So, it's extremely important they start to get the next generation of donors writing checks.


I'd like to really see them put a lot more hype behind annual events like 'Day of Giving', etc. I'd just love to see what Tort could get done with 28-30 equivalencies.

[Fightingscot82]

He did ... but, that was years ago. As we've discussed for years and years, IUP's core fan base is getting older by the day. Many have died off over the past several years. With them went their yearly donations. So, it's extremely important they start to get the next generation of donors writing checks.


I'd like to really see them put a lot more hype behind annual events like 'Day of Giving', etc. I'd just love to see what Tort could get done with 28-30 equivalencies.

I think some of it is also some locals shifting funds to basketball due to the KCAC engagement opportunities. There's no incentive for S&T or First Commonwealth to make a huge annual donation to IUP Football like there is with basketball.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I think some of it is also some locals shifting funds to basketball due to the KCAC engagement opportunities. There's no incentive for S&T or First Commonwealth to make a huge annual donation to IUP Football like there is with basketball.

I'm one of them. Of course, I'm a big basketball person. Not going to lie ...Tort's team turned me off a bit the past couple years with some of the antics and sideline behavior. Although, it appears he got that cleaned up. This team carries itself very similar to the 2017 team. The knuckleheads are all gone.

Joe allegedly has one of his superstars on academic money. So, his listed (almost) 8 equivalencies is at least 9 in reality. The basketball cap is 10. He's also going to open this year No. 2 in the country in several Top 25 polls after reaching the Final Four last year. Joe's program also has a dramatically younger following than football.

[Ship69]

He did ... but, that was years ago. As we've discussed for years and years, IUP's core fan base is getting older by the day. Many have died off over the past several years. With them went their yearly donations. So, it's extremely important they start to get the next generation of donors writing checks.


I'd like to really see them put a lot more hype behind annual events like 'Day of Giving', etc. I'd just love to see what Tort could get done with 28-30 equivalencies.

I enthusiastically donate enough to belong to our school's athletic club, but I hope all the PASSHE alums on this board are also giving to their schools' endowment and academic scholarship funds as much as they are able. With state funds dwindling, our schools need more money to dole out scholarships and financial aid. It was one thing having endowments about a tenth of small private colleges when the state was providing more than 60 percent of PASSHE budgets. It's quite another thing when state support is 25 percent of the budget or less.