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  • #16
    The nice part for New Haven is that the NE-10 is so weak that a non-con loss doesn't keep them out of the playoffs, and they usually give a good fight once they get in.

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    • #17
      ESU schedule released...

      https://esuwarriors.com/news/2024/5/...-schedule.aspx

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      • #18
        Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

        New Haven is a respectable opponent but I swear they never actually win any of these non-conference games.
        New Haven is only making noise in the NE10 period, but outside of the conference, they are nobody because they haven't win a game versus good opponents in recent years. they played some very close games however and they will be tested again in September against one of the best teams in the PSAC if not the entire region.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NewHaven Alum View Post

          New Haven is only making noise in the NE10 period, but outside of the conference, they are nobody because they haven't win a game versus good opponents in recent years. they played some very close games however and they will be tested again in September against one of the best teams in the PSAC if not the entire region.
          SRU will have a lot of new faces this year (and a lot back). They recruit transfers exceptionally well - and, a ton of them.

          That said, getting them early could be advantageous.

          I don't know the exact count now but it's been some time since any non-PSAC team won the Region. From memory I think the PSAC has won 5-6 in a row.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

            SRU will have a lot of new faces this year (and a lot back). They recruit transfers exceptionally well - and, a ton of them.

            That said, getting them early could be advantageous.

            I don't know the exact count now but it's been some time since any non-PSAC team won the Region. From memory I think the PSAC has won 5-6 in a row.
            With Notre Dame losing their coaches after their mini run, and Shepherd joining the conference... seems like no other school has really stepped up yet. I'm really disappointed in Ashland actually. I thought they'd be a much larger presence considering their success in the GLIAC towards the end of there stay there. Tiffin seemed to be making some strides but got handled in the 2nd round last year and then lost their coach too. PSAC does seem to have a stranglehold on the region, unless a new MEC power emerges from Charleston and Frostburg State.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

              With Notre Dame losing their coaches after their mini run, and Shepherd joining the conference... seems like no other school has really stepped up yet. I'm really disappointed in Ashland actually. I thought they'd be a much larger presence considering their success in the GLIAC towards the end of there stay there. Tiffin seemed to be making some strides but got handled in the 2nd round last year and then lost their coach too. PSAC does seem to have a stranglehold on the region, unless a new MEC power emerges from Charleston and Frostburg State.
              It's seemed the MEC has always had (1) really strong team each year -- and then a big step down.

              I remember when IUP played Charleston and Fairmont State in the playoffs not all that long ago -- both on the road -- and beat the crap out of both of them. I remember thinking (saw both games live) neither of those teams would have been much better than .500 in PSAC play. Maybe they just had bad days, but, I just didn't see it.

              Obviously the Shepherd teams were fantastic and ND had some very strong editions there for a stretch. I know the PSAC (and, every conference) has some dead weight. But, from a percentage standpoint, they seem to have a lot of football dead weight. I do think it's a significantly easier path for a strong MEC team during the regular season. Of course, perhaps that's why they are failing in the playoffs lately.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

                With Notre Dame losing their coaches after their mini run, and Shepherd joining the conference... seems like no other school has really stepped up yet. I'm really disappointed in Ashland actually. I thought they'd be a much larger presence considering their success in the GLIAC towards the end of there stay there. Tiffin seemed to be making some strides but got handled in the 2nd round last year and then lost their coach too. PSAC does seem to have a stranglehold on the region, unless a new MEC power emerges from Charleston and Frostburg State.
                I agree about Ashland. Even all the times IUP has gone up against them of late, it just seems like IUP is a step or two ahead of Ashland. Talented program, good support, seem to have good coaching. But it just never has really materialized in a big way since entering the region.

                Of course, I say this and this will be the year that Ashland beats IUP 42-10 in that opening game.

                I felt like Notre Dame had some real opportunities to take a significant step and have actual staying power. But... That obviously didn't happen, and can't now.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                  It's seemed the MEC has always had (1) really strong team each year -- and then a big step down.

                  I remember when IUP played Charleston and Fairmont State in the playoffs not all that long ago -- both on the road -- and beat the crap out of both of them. I remember thinking (saw both games live) neither of those teams would have been much better than .500 in PSAC play. Maybe they just had bad days, but, I just didn't see it.

                  Obviously the Shepherd teams were fantastic and ND had some very strong editions there for a stretch. I know the PSAC (and, every conference) has some dead weight. But, from a percentage standpoint, they seem to have a lot of football dead weight. I do think it's a significantly easier path for a strong MEC team during the regular season. Of course, perhaps that's why they are failing in the playoffs lately.
                  That 2015 year, Charleston wasn't ready for playoff physicality. The 2016 year for IUP against Fairmont, I was genuinely shocked at how much of a beat down that was. Shepherd played them late in the year, and that was a huge game that was only a one score game until about 4 minutes left with a late Shepherd FG. I thought they were pretty physical on D and would be a tough out come playoff time. Obviously, that didn't happen being a 49 pt victory for IUP.

                  I played at Shepherd in the mid 2000's, we weren't "scared" (for lack of a better word), but it took a couple hacks at the playoffs to get over the tightness in the big games those were. We were the #1 seed and played CW Post (ESU regional winner that year) and we lost, although no part of me thought they were a better team. We played very tight and you could tell how new of an experience that was for us as a program. Lost 28-21. The following year, we were able to come back as the #1 seed again, and we were MUCH more comfortable in the playoffs that year culminating in a great game against Bloomsburg for the regional title (loss 24-21). Year after that, back to the regional final against a juggernaut Cal team and lost that one too. I think overall the success experienced and the fact it happened with some frequency changed the trajectory of the program to shoot for much higher expectations. I think Fairmont and Charleston could have possibly experienced a similar path if they were able to sustain some of that success and make it back to the playoffs. Even Notre Dame, the way they carried themselves on the field in that 2018-2021 run, they expected to win because of their success in prior seasons.

                  Moral to the story, got to string together more than a lightning in a bottle season to move forward as a program.

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