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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I get that, but they're not using critical thinking. Sometimes you have to consider the results of cuts before you make the decision. Of the team I run at work, everything is already so thin staffed that we're down to several one person offices from what used to be multiple person teams. A similar cut would mean that the only person qualified and trained to do certain tasks could be gone without any input. There are career people who were in a probationary period because they were promoted to replace a retiree and now are gone meaning there are teams in federal departments suddenly without someone "in charge." Its increasingly becoming clear that somehow DOGE team misinterpreted the meaning of "probationary period" as some sort of discipline.
This is all going to blow up spectacularly.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
What could go wrong when you have 19-25 year olds firing people?
This is all going to blow up spectacularly.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Led by someone who I'm not entirely sure understands or appreciates the Constitution. He keeps saying things that really don't fall in line with how we've run this country the last 250 years.
All because everyone is afraid of the Cults primary voters…a small amount of voters has taken this country hostage and put into office the absolute worst people.
They want to break everything as fast as possible with no plan to make anything better.
Higher education is just one thing of many getting clobbered.
I paid almost 8 bucks for an 18 pack of eggs at Wegmans on Monday. They were half that in December.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
I get that, but they're not using critical thinking. Sometimes you have to consider the results of cuts before you make the decision. Of the team I run at work, everything is already so thin staffed that we're down to several one person offices from what used to be multiple person teams. A similar cut would mean that the only person qualified and trained to do certain tasks could be gone without any input. There are career people who were in a probationary period because they were promoted to replace a retiree and now are gone meaning there are teams in federal departments suddenly without someone "in charge." Its increasingly becoming clear that somehow DOGE team misinterpreted the meaning of "probationary period" as some sort of discipline.
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that. Their plan was to reduce the number of federal workers. That's what they are doing. Mass layoffs happen in the private sector all the time. Sometimes good people are lost. Sometimes the result is a growing workload for others. People deal with that everyday not in public sector or government type jobs.
To be clear, I'm not getting into any politics. Just the conversation of workforce reduction.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I totally understand the critical thinking, role/person based, value to the job discussion regarding these decisions. But I think bean counters often look past that in any avenue of workforce reduction. Businesses in the private sector "reorganize" all the time because a bean counter says to do so. No emotion. No value conversations. Just line item eliminations. "We have too many of (insert this role title here) working at this location. We need to reduce that number by 15%."
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that. Their plan was to reduce the number of federal workers. That's what they are doing. Mass layoffs happen in the private sector all the time. Sometimes good people are lost. Sometimes the result is a growing workload for others. People deal with that everyday not in public sector or government type jobs.
To be clear, I'm not getting into any politics. Just the conversation of workforce reduction.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I totally understand the critical thinking, role/person based, value to the job discussion regarding these decisions. But I think bean counters often look past that in any avenue of workforce reduction. Businesses in the private sector "reorganize" all the time because a bean counter says to do so. No emotion. No value conversations. Just line item eliminations. "We have too many of (insert this role title here) working at this location. We need to reduce that number by 15%."
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that. Their plan was to reduce the number of federal workers. That's what they are doing. Mass layoffs happen in the private sector all the time. Sometimes good people are lost. Sometimes the result is a growing workload for others. People deal with that everyday not in public sector or government type jobs.
To be clear, I'm not getting into any politics. Just the conversation of workforce reduction.Last edited by IUPNation; 02-19-2025, 10:46 AM.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I totally understand the critical thinking, role/person based, value to the job discussion regarding these decisions. But I think bean counters often look past that in any avenue of workforce reduction. Businesses in the private sector "reorganize" all the time because a bean counter says to do so. No emotion. No value conversations. Just line item eliminations. "We have too many of (insert this role title here) working at this location. We need to reduce that number by 15%."
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that. Their plan was to reduce the number of federal workers. That's what they are doing. Mass layoffs happen in the private sector all the time. Sometimes good people are lost. Sometimes the result is a growing workload for others. People deal with that everyday not in public sector or government type jobs.
To be clear, I'm not getting into any politics. Just the conversation of workforce reduction.
The government is not a for-profit institution. Now we've got people who voted in a "successful businessman" who has filed no less than 6 times for bankruptcy protection. What is so concerning is these also include casinos (which is just printing money for yourself) and real estate (again, printing money), The major reasons for his fililng for bankruptcy protection is to 'protect his assets' so he didnt lose money, but F everyone else. In addition, he has a laundry list of stiffing hard working people who did work for him. And yet, he's lauded as a shrewd businessman. Let's not even go there with his creepy sex alligations, which combined with the bankruptcy, would put your average American on the "do no hire" list. I doubt he could even get a cashier job at Sheetz or WaWa.
When you start treating the US Government like a business, it's going to go horribly wrong....just wait.
So here we are, with this guy and his P2025 authors brainwashing the MAGA's that they are "sticking it to the 'Deep Statee'" when in reality, that is exactly what they are. They drained the swamp alright, and replaced it right in the heart of our Government.
We are currently at the Find Out portion of the F.A.F.O. My dip**** brother and his wife (who I really like, but came to the States on a foreign educational visa) are die-hard MAGAs and honestly believe that "Elon" is the smartest human on earth that is going to "Fix Everything". that was until my nephew's wife (their son) got a letter that she was no longer going to be employed by the USDA because of EO cuts, and is being forced to resign. Good for her, she refused and said they can fire her.... they're still doing the mental gymnastics to figure out how its's "fixing everything" when it hits that close to home.
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Originally posted by RockPride View Post
Here is what I think is lost in the whole 'conversation'. The role of government is to create and enforce laws, provide public services, and ensure the welfare and security of its citizens. It balances individual freedoms with the need for order and public good, often through various branches and levels of governance.
The government is not a for-profit institution. Now we've got people who voted in a "successful businessman" who has filed no less than 6 times for bankruptcy protection. What is so concerning is these also include casinos (which is just printing money for yourself) and real estate (again, printing money), The major reasons for his fililng for bankruptcy protection is to 'protect his assets' so he didnt lose money, but F everyone else. In addition, he has a laundry list of stiffing hard working people who did work for him. And yet, he's lauded as a shrewd businessman. Let's not even go there with his creepy sex alligations, which combined with the bankruptcy, would put your average American on the "do no hire" list. I doubt he could even get a cashier job at Sheetz or WaWa.
When you start treating the US Government like a business, it's going to go horribly wrong....just wait.
So here we are, with this guy and his P2025 authors brainwashing the MAGA's that they are "sticking it to the 'Deep Statee'" when in reality, that is exactly what they are. They drained the swamp alright, and replaced it right in the heart of our Government.
We are currently at the Find Out portion of the F.A.F.O. My dip**** brother and his wife (who I really like, but came to the States on a foreign educational visa) are die-hard MAGAs and honestly believe that "Elon" is the smartest human on earth that is going to "Fix Everything". that was until my nephew's wife (their son) got a letter that she was no longer going to be employed by the USDA because of EO cuts, and is being forced to resign. Good for her, she refused and said they can fire her.... they're still doing the mental gymnastics to figure out how its's "fixing everything" when it hits that close to home.
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Does anybody believe that there is waste, fraud and mismanagement of funds in our government? I read through these posts and can’t believe there isn’t one that says what we are seeing is a good first step to see if we can get our bloated government back in line.
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Originally posted by Huskie14 View PostDoes anybody believe that there is waste, fraud and mismanagement of funds in our government? I read through these posts and can’t believe there isn’t one that says what we are seeing is a good first step to see if we can get our bloated government back in line.
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Originally posted by Huskie14 View PostDoes anybody believe that there is waste, fraud and mismanagement of funds in our government? I read through these posts and can’t believe there isn’t one that says what we are seeing is a good first step to see if we can get our bloated government back in line.
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