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  • Originally posted by DawgUp View Post
    How many kids have jumped in the portal?
    All of them. GV is actually swapping teams with Finlandia because Finlandia has a better squad now.
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    • Originally posted by Redwing View Post
      And so the the exodus begins. Reid gone. I ain't gonna lie. I'm disappointed with GV's leadership with trying to move expeditiously and trying to keep the talent together. And FWIW, I'm not so sure it's best for those leaving as well. But my opinion means little. I wish them the best, but I don't think they're taking the best path at this time.
      In December 2009, after Coach Martin announced that he was leaving, players significantly advocated for Coach Mitch. It became very apparent that he wasn’t the next Kelly/Martin. So for the next ~12 seasons, everyone complained.

      Now GV has to rush a hire just to appease the players? In reality, we should’ve lost to FSU in October, and did lose in December. The previous season we lost to FSU twice. The pre-Covid season, we didn’t even make the playoffs. If this next hire can’t push GV over the hump, then what’s the point. I’d rather take some (potential) growing pains in Year 1, than rush to hire someone. From my understanding, is there even a Portal in D2? And if those players are leaving, where are they going anyways? There’s few D2 schools that have better facilities and perks than GV.

      With that said, if Postma gets hired, I think he’s a good, quality coach (I don’t know Wooster enough to know). But I’m not rushing a decision (like the Mitchell hire) just to appease the players. Attrition happens every year in D2. Some of those players, especially because of the Covid year, may have already decided to hang it up anyways.

      My wish list still would be 1) Brechin, 2) Brady, and 3) Postma.

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      • Originally posted by DawgUp View Post
        How many kids have jumped in the portal?
        So far one confirmed, I think Ferris was at 5 last time I looked? And just because they go into the portal it doesnt mean they cant come back out and stay at GVSU. Or Ferris kids same thing.

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        • AD Becker is doing this as fast as she can but its gonna take a few days to get interviews in. She has talked with the players, met with staff members, and I am sure is getting calls from every so called expert, including alumni. The job is tough...you want it right and you want it fast. I think if kids go into the portal now it is more of an insurance policy maybe than actually wanting to leave. Many think if Wooster is the hire then no one leaves...maybe one or two who would have even if Mitchell was still here. Cant blame a kid but I hope they all stay...this team is LOADED for next year. Maybe if they bring in a new coach and he brings in his staff it all blows up and kids leave. Hell who knows. The kids will know whats up soon and they will make the best decision that they can...hope its right. Take the path of the old bull on the hill...not the young bull.

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          • Originally posted by gvfootball01 View Post

            In December 2009, after Coach Martin announced that he was leaving, players significantly advocated for Coach Mitch. It became very apparent that he wasn’t the next Kelly/Martin. So for the next ~12 seasons, everyone complained.

            Now GV has to rush a hire just to appease the players? In reality, we should’ve lost to FSU in October, and did lose in December. The previous season we lost to FSU twice. The pre-Covid season, we didn’t even make the playoffs. If this next hire can’t push GV over the hump, then what’s the point. I’d rather take some (potential) growing pains in Year 1, than rush to hire someone. From my understanding, is there even a Portal in D2? And if those players are leaving, where are they going anyways? There’s few D2 schools that have better facilities and perks than GV.

            With that said, if Postma gets hired, I think he’s a good, quality coach (I don’t know Wooster enough to know). But I’m not rushing a decision (like the Mitchell hire) just to appease the players. Attrition happens every year in D2. Some of those players, especially because of the Covid year, may have already decided to hang it up anyways.

            My wish list still would be 1) Brechin, 2) Brady, and 3) Postma.
            Generally when players are transferring away from schools like GV or Ferris or Pitt or NW Missouri or Delta or UWF, it's either to get an FBS scholarship (which I'm guessing is what will happen with Tariq Reid), or to get more playing time at a lesser D2 school/NAIA. There's plenty of players at GV who can get a full ride scholarship at an FBS school. Some of them would even get significant playing time.

            Tariq's obviously wasn't planned. In late December he tweeted out that he was returning to GV for one more season, so obviously this is coaching-related.
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            • Originally posted by gvfootball01 View Post

              In December 2009, after Coach Martin announced that he was leaving, players significantly advocated for Coach Mitch. It became very apparent that he wasn’t the next Kelly/Martin. So for the next ~12 seasons, everyone complained.

              Now GV has to rush a hire just to appease the players? In reality, we should’ve lost to FSU in October, and did lose in December. The previous season we lost to FSU twice. The pre-Covid season, we didn’t even make the playoffs. If this next hire can’t push GV over the hump, then what’s the point. I’d rather take some (potential) growing pains in Year 1, than rush to hire someone. From my understanding, is there even a Portal in D2? And if those players are leaving, where are they going anyways? There’s few D2 schools that have better facilities and perks than GV.

              With that said, if Postma gets hired, I think he’s a good, quality coach (I don’t know Wooster enough to know). But I’m not rushing a decision (like the Mitchell hire) just to appease the players. Attrition happens every year in D2. Some of those players, especially because of the Covid year, may have already decided to hang it up anyways.

              My wish list still would be 1) Brechin, 2) Brady, and 3) Postma.
              Interesting post...don't see eye-to-eye on some of it:

              1) Mitchell was not a quick hire to appease anyone. There were a couple of other legit candidates (Lance Leipold in particular) that the hiring committee had to do some serious thinking about. When all was said and done, Mitchell was still the obvious choice at that time. Opinions since then are what they are, but at the time no one rushed into anything or was forced by the players.
              2) Should have lost to Ferris in October? Why? These were the two best teams in the country. They're gonna play close games. It's easy to argue if we had simply run at them in the fourth in December we could/would have won that too. As long as TA is at Ferris they are going to be hard to beat, plain and simple. The 2022 GV team was good enough to do it.
              3) If we hire Wooster, it'll be because he's the best fit. It won't be to appease the players, or anyone. They're opinion is valuable, but ultimately it's not their call.
              4) Brechin...I guess, sounds neat but he's an FBS Coordinator. Not sure if he would want to step back to DII or not. Brady is a solid coach but it doesn't seem like he runs things at SV the way we would want them at GV. Don't even know if Postma has applied...have seen other posts our here that everyone on the staff wants the job. Do we even know that? Easy assumption, but doesn't mean it's accurate.

              Agreed we shouldn't rush into anything. If Wooster is the guy, kinda hope a lot of the portal kids change their mind. If he's not, whoever they get will have a tough road but that's true anytime you take over a program. If we have to rebuild for a couple of years so be it. Sure hope our admin gets this right.

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              • Originally posted by gvfootball01 View Post

                In December 2009, after Coach Martin announced that he was leaving, players significantly advocated for Coach Mitch. It became very apparent that he wasn’t the next Kelly/Martin. So for the next ~12 seasons, everyone complained.

                Now GV has to rush a hire just to appease the players? In reality, we should’ve lost to FSU in October, and did lose in December. The previous season we lost to FSU twice. The pre-Covid season, we didn’t even make the playoffs. If this next hire can’t push GV over the hump, then what’s the point. I’d rather take some (potential) growing pains in Year 1, than rush to hire someone. From my understanding, is there even a Portal in D2? And if those players are leaving, where are they going anyways? There’s few D2 schools that have better facilities and perks than GV.

                With that said, if Postma gets hired, I think he’s a good, quality coach (I don’t know Wooster enough to know). But I’m not rushing a decision (like the Mitchell hire) just to appease the players. Attrition happens every year in D2. Some of those players, especially because of the Covid year, may have already decided to hang it up anyways.

                My wish list still would be 1) Brechin, 2) Brady, and 3) Postma.
                I'm not one to want to hire someone internally from a program that can't seem to get over the hump, but Wooster is as close to being external as you can get without being external since he's so new to the staff. That is one good thing going for him and there's little doubt that he coaches a great offensive line. The question is, can he manage an entire program? Does he have his own model or does he model himself after Mitchell or Winters? IMO, it seems risky to promote someone from D2 position coach directly to head coach. But I'm not an AD and barely know anything about him.

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                • I would assume that GV has a search firm looking for internal and external candidates and consultants ready to weigh in on them.

                  This is usually a whole process. This hire is the face of your school, it's not like they are hiring a waitress and are going to grab the first person who can pass a UA.

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                  • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
                    I would assume that GV has a search firm looking for internal and external candidates and consultants ready to weigh in on them.

                    This is usually a whole process. This hire is the face of your school, it's not like they are hiring a waitress and are going to grab the first person who can pass a UA.
                    This is correct - they began the process immediately when Mitch informed Keri - the players are being kept informed on the process as are the assistant coaches as well as the football alumni board - our AD is doing it right and will get what her and her staff believe will be the best for GV - someone, anyone who comes in thinking they would have to blow up the program would never get the job - it has to be someone who has done their research and knows what GV has and who GV is - two assistant coaches have made their interest known as have many, many others from all levels of football - Go Lakers!!
                    Last edited by BillyGV; 01-19-2023, 08:33 PM.

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                    • I see that Jeff Fisher posted something to his Twitter account. Could he be the NFL HC that is interested in GV?

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                      • Originally posted by Runnin' Cat View Post
                        I see that Jeff Fisher posted something to his Twitter account. Could he be the NFL HC that is interested in GV?
                        Nope. Rumor has it John Harbaugh wants in to turn GV into the next great Big Ten power so he can compete with his brother.

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                        • Originally posted by BeachinLaker View Post

                          Nope. Rumor has it John Harbaugh wants in to turn GV into the next great Big Ten power so he can compete with his brother.
                          I heard Ben Johnson is just using the Lions as leverage for his GVSU offer.
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                          • Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

                            I heard Ben Johnson is just using the Lions as leverage for his GVSU offer.
                            The Lions still have a team?

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                            • Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

                              The Lions still have a team?
                              They have a team and they just avoided relegation with that last win.

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                              • UPDATE:

                                Hello Gentlemen,

                                After a couple of days, I will report that I am extremely pleased with the pool of candidates that have emerged from this process. I have spoken to 13 individuals from all levels of college football and even the NFL. I am using the rest of the week to follow up with some of these individuals for more in depth conversations about their vision for the program. I will utilize zoom and spend time both in a car and on a plane to learn all that I can about these candidates. I have thoroughly reviewed and read every resume that has come in through the search firm, from agents, and directly from candidates.

                                Currently, there are 3 men that have begun to separate themselves and I would hire any one of the three of them. There will be others I’m sure, but then as I mentioned on the zoom, I will then overlay these individuals onto our program and GVSU to make the final decision.

                                Take care,

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