Matt Mitchell joining Wisconsin staff

[lakerblue]

Maybe, but how many of that group never wanted MM? Again, if GV was a 2-3 loss team, I agree blow it open. But that's not the case at this time. Add in D1 is looming on the horizon, and not a certainty, I've got to favor an internal hire. I'm hoping that we'll get some signal soon.. very soon.

Yes, Anyone who doesn't agree with this statement is clueless about how football works. you have the #2 team in the country, keep it in house with Louis ( 7 years) Postma (12 years) Vitzthum (8 years).

You hire the guy based on who the team will follow and resembles MM, not the plays they have called, being a head coach is much more than a play caller (ie. More Defensive success when MM gave the duties to Postma and Louis and eventually just Louis)

Who knows, maybe the kids will start a petition like Wayne State :/

[BeachinLaker]

Well, if they announce the move up by March, OK. But they haven't moved much on it recently so why essentially throw away a potentially great season? We all have our opinions and bias. I'm not sure what GVs leadership's priorities are though.

That’s just it. None of us know what’s going on behind those doors. No one is talking. It took a QB recruit to randomly say it in an interview for us to even realize it’s going to eventually happen. Since then…nothing.

[Redwing]

I don't think anyone here is going to be happy if the hire is from within the program already, regardless of who it is from within the program. I think people around here are mostly tired of playing second fiddle to Ferris, and wanting an outside hire that can bring something fresh to the program that could surpass Ferris. I don't really have an opinion on what the best option is. Whether it's keep things status quo as a top 3 team in the country and just hope you win against Ferris in the playoffs, or if you should go outside the program and overhaul everything in hopes of finding a higher ceiling. No idea.

Maybe, but how many of that group never wanted MM? Again, if GV was a 2-3 loss team, I agree blow it open. But that's not the case at this time. Add in D1 is looming on the horizon, and not a certainty, I've got to favor an internal hire. I'm hoping that we'll get some signal soon.. very soon.

[KleShreen]

if they are exploring d1- you hire outside.

if you stay d2 for 3 or 4 more years you stay in house imo. Not sure if anyone in house is HC material, but they are all good coaches you want to keep, going outside loses relationships and coaches and you press the restart button on an undefeated reg season team. Look at UWF, outside the staff, but a connected guy who was recently there a smart decision. They passed up Im sure many good candidates and went with a culture guy to keep the status quo. No overhaul is needed. ( problem is GV doesnt have anyone that left that can come back recently also)

I don't think anyone here is going to be happy if the hire is from within the program already, regardless of who it is from within the program. I think people around here are mostly tired of playing second fiddle to Ferris, and wanting an outside hire that can bring something fresh to the program that could surpass Ferris. I don't really have an opinion on what the best option is. Whether it's keep things status quo as a top 3 team in the country and just hope you win against Ferris in the playoffs, or if you should go outside the program and overhaul everything in hopes of finding a higher ceiling. No idea.

[lakerblue]

Well, if they announce the move up by March, OK. But they haven't moved much on it recently so why essentially throw away a potentially great season? We all have our opinions and bias. I'm not sure what GVs leadership's priorities are though.

yes, don't throw away a potential great season in 2023 for new blood to stay d2.

couldn't agree more with the GV leadership.

[Redwing]

Best case scenario is that everyone at GV has known about this since shortly after Fickell got hired in November, and all the recruits knew about it already. If that's the case, then any option should be on the table.

The other side of the coin could be that if GV actually is exploring D1, maybe they'd want someone with D1 experience to lead the transition?

Well, if they announce the move up by March, OK. But they haven't moved much on it recently so why essentially throw away a potentially great season? We all have our opinions and bias. I'm not sure what GVs leadership's priorities are though.

[lakerblue]

Best case scenario is that everyone at GV has known about this since shortly after Fickell got hired in November, and all the recruits knew about it already. If that's the case, then any option should be on the table.

The other side of the coin could be that if GV actually is exploring D1, maybe they'd want someone with D1 experience to lead the transition?

if they are exploring d1- you hire outside.

if you stay d2 for 3 or 4 more years you stay in house imo. Not sure if anyone in house is HC material, but they are all good coaches you want to keep, going outside loses relationships and coaches and you press the restart button on an undefeated reg season team. Look at UWF, outside the staff, but a connected guy who was recently there a smart decision. They passed up Im sure many good candidates and went with a culture guy to keep the status quo. No overhaul is needed. ( problem is GV doesnt have anyone that left that can come back recently also)

[KleShreen]

If GV wasn't seriously looking at moving up, I get looking outside. But going D1 is on the radar. So, why not get what one can out of the team next season and not blow it up? Then move up in another year or so and then evaluate the staff? I just believe that going external will result in talent leaving and neutering the new coach. GV can't ignore that D1 issue. Or they need to state emphatically that they are not planning to move up for the foreseeable future.

Best case scenario is that everyone at GV has known about this since shortly after Fickell got hired in November, and all the recruits knew about it already. If that's the case, then any option should be on the table.

The other side of the coin could be that if GV actually is exploring D1, maybe they'd want someone with D1 experience to lead the transition?

[KleShreen]

I'm just curious why Wooster's name keeps getting thrown around when you have three people on staff that know the program for 8-12 years. He is the newest hire with one season of coaching ( not counting covid year.) If you keep it internal with him, many staff may leave because of hurt feelings. Louis, Postma to keep the defending GLIAC champs in the right spot or you go external and start fresh and you risk loosing good players.

I only put Wooster's name out there because he should be a slam dunk candidate for the Wayne State job, but Wayne State hasn't done anything with that spot yet, so it makes me question if maybe Wooster is getting certain guarantees at GV. But I have no information on that. Maybe he just doesn't want to be at Wayne State anymore, in general.

[lakerblue]

I'm just curious why Wooster's name keeps getting thrown around when you have three people on staff that know the program for 8-12 years. He is the newest hire with one season of coaching ( not counting covid year.) If you keep it internal with him, many staff may leave because of hurt feelings. Louis, Postma to keep the defending GLIAC champs in the right spot or you go external and start fresh and you risk loosing good players.

[Predatory Primates]

I would think the Ferris DC would be getting hc or d1 looks.

[Redwing]

If GV wasn't seriously looking at moving up, I get looking outside. But going D1 is on the radar. So, why not get what one can out of the team next season and not blow it up? Then move up in another year or so and then evaluate the staff? I just believe that going external will result in talent leaving and neutering the new coach. GV can't ignore that D1 issue. Or they need to state emphatically that they are not planning to move up for the foreseeable future.

[BeachinLaker]

I find it hard to believe they'd go after someone who hasn't had any kind of national success at D2 yet. My guess is either Postma or Wooster is getting promoted, and that's why Postma didn't go for NMU, and why Wooster hasn't gone to Wayne State yet.

I'd like to see them go outside the program, but I just don't know how you can do that with signing day only 2.5 weeks away. And GV has a pretty stacked class committed so far. But when Mitch got the job, once of the applicants that year was Lance Leipold, so.........gotta take a good look at external candidates, in my opinion.

Agreed with everything you just said, including looking at external candidates. We’d be doing ourselves a disservice to not consider external candidates.

[KleShreen]

I thought the same thing. My first guess is they promote from within and most of the staff stays intact, but any chance someone like Sparky McEwen could be a serious candidate? Turned Davenport around quickly, been recruiting the exact same area as GV, has that Ferris pedigree (can't believe I just typed that. Gross).

I find it hard to believe they'd go after someone who hasn't had any kind of national success at D2 yet. My guess is either Postma or Wooster is getting promoted, and that's why Postma didn't go for NMU, and why Wooster hasn't gone to Wayne State yet.

I'd like to see them go outside the program, but I just don't know how you can do that with signing day only 2.5 weeks away. And GV has a pretty stacked class committed so far. But when Mitch got the job, once of the applicants that year was Lance Leipold, so.........gotta take a good look at external candidates, in my opinion.

[GVLakerFan24]

I wonder if this has anything to do with why Nick Postma didn't go for the Northern Michigan job again.

I thought the same thing. My first guess is they promote from within and most of the staff stays intact, but any chance someone like Sparky McEwen could be a serious candidate? Turned Davenport around quickly, been recruiting the exact same area as GV, has that Ferris pedigree (can't believe I just typed that. Gross).