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[HoundDog]

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I hear from my GLIAC friends all the time, I think you are wrong about the Hounds being comparable to those teams. GVSU, FSU, Ashland, Wayne State, we don't have the same type of players, never would be in the game with them nowadays. To see UIndy struggle with bad teams in the GLVC and lose to a school like Marian is disheartening. If that is solid and bright as you stated, I do not want to see when it hits rock bottom. I will continue to support the Hounds always. Point is, I think our program has sunk to the level of the GLVC teams instead of elevating itself to the GLIAC level we were at. Just my opinion on the football program.[/QUOTE]


UIndy Grady.........read my quote from a previous post above which I copied below. I never said our current talent is comparable with GVSU/FSU/AU.....though we did beat AU back in 2013. Our current talent is comparable with the UIndy GLIAC days. I do believe a couple of the UIndy teams in the last 5 or so could compete in the top 1/3 of the GLIAC. I'll stand by that comment. See my comment below.

...."I believe the current talent level to be more than comparable with their GLIAC days....by that I mean that current teams are probably a .500 level GLIAC team with a couple teams in last 4-5 years being top 1/3 of GLIAC. Before I get raked over the coals from GLIAC posters, I didn't say that today's teams would be competing for a GLIAC championship."....


This years team had a 4th quarter lead at Hillsdale, I wasn't there, I was told it was a game we could have won. We had a 4th quarter lead at SWBU, we had chances against Truman, I wasn't at those games. A couple of breaks or a couple plays here and there and this team could be 5-1 instead of 2-4.....and the old saying if my aunt had ba--s she'd be my uncle...we didn't make those plays, it happens. Marian is a Top 10 D2 team in my opinion, you can choose to believe that or not.

UIndy starts 1 senior on offense.......6 on defense, with a lot of young guys seeing time on the dline. UIndy will be just fine moving forward....IMO.

[dvaara]

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as a loooong time gliac fan i have always respected indy's program...they were a solid middle of the pack gliac squad...but when you leave competition like that and go to a much lesser conference this is what you get...you drop down to the pack...im not sure if schollys play a role? does indy have the same # of scholarships as they had in the gliac? what happened to indy is not unusual...look at the old ncc... team that left for the nsic (mankato, umd, st cloud, augustana) they dominated the nsic like you guys dominated the glvc...im not sure any of those 4 teams lost a single game to the original nsic teams their first few years or so...now they lose to those teams left and right...they have come down to the pack

and michiganfootball (love the name by the way:good:) "there are only 3 gliac teams that would be able to hang with marian????" come on man...that is ridiculous talk

[michiganfb]

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This years team had a 4th quarter lead at Hillsdale, I wasn't there, I was told it was a game we could have won. We had a 4th quarter lead at SWBU, we had chances against Truman, I wasn't at those games. A couple of breaks or a couple plays here and there and this team could be 5-1 instead of 2-4.....and the old saying if my aunt had ba--s she'd be my uncle...we didn't make those plays, it happens. Marian is a Top 10 D2 team in my opinion, you can choose to believe that or not.

Agreed. Bunch of D1 recruited but NCAA academic "nonqualies" on that team. Just google some of their starters. I watched Marian v St Francis/Fort Wayne Indiana last year. Sure they were trying not to run up the score and it was a semifinal playoff game.

And Go Blue! UM not MU Marian blue if that was their color. Not a fan of that kind of program.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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as a loooong time gliac fan i have always respected indy's program...they were a solid middle of the pack gliac squad...but when you leave competition like that and go to a much lesser conference this is what you get...you drop down to the pack...im not sure if schollys play a role? does indy have the same # of scholarships as they had in the gliac? what happened to indy is not unusual...look at the old ncc... team that left for the nsic (mankato, umd, st cloud, augustana) they dominated the nsic like you guys dominated the glvc...im not sure any of those 4 teams lost a single game to the original nsic teams their first few years or so...now they lose to those teams left and right...they have come down to the pack

and michiganfootball (love the name by the way:good:) "there are only 3 gliac teams that would be able to hang with marian????" come on man...that is ridiculous talk

UIndy not in same caliber league as the GLIAC, that is why Hounds program has slipped a bit in recent years. UIndy should have applied for full membership to GLIAC years ago, GLVC is a sinking ship with worst commissioner in college athletics, name is Naumovich, strange leadership. UIndy had plenty of chances to join GLIAC, maybe revisit that now so many schools left the GLIAC. GLVC is going down hill each year, adding too many bad schools, too far out west. If Bellarmine and USI ever leave, UIndy would be in trouble. That is why I say UIndy needs to look at GLIAC membership for all sports, not just football.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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Agreed. Bunch of D1 recruited but NCAA academic "nonqualies" on that team. Just google some of their starters. I watched Marian v St Francis/Fort Wayne Indiana last year. Sure they were trying not to run up the score and it was a semifinal playoff game.

And Go Blue! UM not MU Marian blue if that was their color. Not a fan of that kind of program.

I was at the UIndy vs. Marian game this season. Marian is not as good as GVSU and some of the other GLIAC school. They do have very good athletes, they would win the GLVC. I don't care about "nonqualies" as you call them, the whole stuff about student athletes is a load of bull schools use to try and convince the public they care. Marian gets a bad rep for doing exactly what all the other NCAA schools do when they can, look for any loopholes to get non-qualifiers in and sit them for a year. No difference between Marian and rest of D-2 schools in that respect.

[michiganfb]

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I was at the UIndy vs. Marian game this season. Marian is not as good as GVSU and some of the other GLIAC school. They do have very good athletes, they would win the GLVC. I don't care about "nonqualies" as you call them, the whole stuff about student athletes is a load of bull schools use to try and convince the public they care. Marian gets a bad rep for doing exactly what all the other NCAA schools do when they can, look for any loopholes to get non-qualifiers in and sit them for a year. No difference between Marian and rest of D-2 schools in that respect.

Quite a BIG difference in eligibility requirements from NCAA to NAIA.

[HoundDog]

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UIndy will join the GMAC or stay put. GLIAC ship has sailed. Time to get over it.

[michiganfb]

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UIndy will join the GMAC or stay put. GLIAC ship has sailed. Time to get over it.

Dear GLIAC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Canada.
Dear GLVC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Kansas.
Dear Lewis & Bellarmine, Waiting patiently for the GLVC East Football Division.

[Irishlaker]

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Dear GLIAC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Canada.
Dear GLVC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Kansas.
Dear Lewis & Bellarmine, Waiting patiently for the GLVC East Football Division.

You do realize that Wayne State is the closet to Canada of any GLIAC school, right? Detroit isn't THAT far from Indianapolis. :wink: I get where you're going, however...those two UP schools do present an interesting challenge from a footprint perspective.

Indy going full in the GLIAC would have been neat, but they are a founding member of the GLVC...only made sense they would go full in that league once the other sports filled out.

As for Indy's team this year, it happens. Look, GV went 6-5 two years ago after winning the region the year before. After ten straight PO appearances, we've struggled to be consistent since then. I tried getting GV fans to understand that football has no birthrights. Ask USC, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, Nebraska, Miami...all programs that used to win like mad every year, but things change and they went through rough patches. It's football...it WILL happen. I doubt Indy will be down for long.

All that said, I agree that their teams, while better over the last few years, would have been middle of the pack to the top 1/3 of the GLIAC. They were trending that way for 20 years, so no real reason to think things would have been much different. GLIAC as a whole is MUCH better than it was 10 years ago, but Indy was a bit better too.

Hang in there 'Hounds fans...everyone goes through this.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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Quite a BIG difference in eligibility requirements from NCAA to NAIA.

Who cares? The coaches are all the same, they just want to win. The academic requirements are jokes, everyone tries to find loopholes if the players is good enough. Student Athletes is such a hypocritical term and should be abolished. NAIA or NCAA, every coach is concerned about winning first.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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UIndy will join the GMAC or stay put. GLIAC ship has sailed. Time to get over it.

Never will join the G-MAC. The GLIAC was a great fit, our administration blew that chance. We're stuck in a bad GLVC that's getting worse every year. We don't have the resources to go Division I, no decent league will take us, maybe it's time for UIndy to examine NAIA or Division III. NAIA works fine for Marian and some others. I'm not opposed to NAIA. Not crazy about D-3 because no scholarships. Anything better than the GLVC.

[Redwing]

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Who cares? The coaches are all the same, they just want to win. The academic requirements are jokes, everyone tries to find loopholes if the players is good enough. Student Athletes is such a hypocritical term and should be abolished. NAIA or NCAA, every coach is concerned about winning first.

Maybe for some schools, but there are many schools in D2 that have relatively strong academic standards. Heck Truman is even one of them.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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Dear GLIAC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Canada.
Dear GLVC, Nobody wants to travel from Indy to nearly Kansas.
Dear Lewis & Bellarmine, Waiting patiently for the GLVC East Football Division.

Lewis and Bellarmine are not adding football. Ex-Lewis AD Schumacher wanted football, he's gone and so is football. Bellarmine doesn't have the money to sponsor football.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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Maybe for some schools, but there are many schools in D2 that have relatively strong academic standards. Heck Truman is even one of them.

I think it's great when school take academics serious. But there are way too many that just put on an act, it's phony as can be. Marian took some unnecessary cheap shots from the posters earlier, that's why I brought it up. Like I said, I don't care who qualifies or not, I just like to watch the sports like football and basketball. If Joey Blow doesn't have straight A's in biology or whatever, I'm not concerned as long as he's rushing for 100 yards or making 15 tackles.

[UIndyGradyGreyhound]

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You do realize that Wayne State is the closet to Canada of any GLIAC school, right? Detroit isn't THAT far from Indianapolis. :wink: I get where you're going, however...those two UP schools do present an interesting challenge from a footprint perspective.

Indy going full in the GLIAC would have been neat, but they are a founding member of the GLVC...only made sense they would go full in that league once the other sports filled out.

As for Indy's team this year, it happens. Look, GV went 6-5 two years ago after winning the region the year before. After ten straight PO appearances, we've struggled to be consistent since then. I tried getting GV fans to understand that football has no birthrights. Ask USC, Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame, Alabama, Nebraska, Miami...all programs that used to win like mad every year, but things change and they went through rough patches. It's football...it WILL happen. I doubt Indy will be down for long.

All that said, I agree that their teams, while better over the last few years, would have been middle of the pack to the top 1/3 of the GLIAC. They were trending that way for 20 years, so no real reason to think things would have been much different. GLIAC as a whole is MUCH better than it was 10 years ago, but Indy was a bit better too.

Hang in there 'Hounds fans...everyone goes through this.

I always thought Indianapolis, Wayne State, St. Joe's, Quincy, Ashland, GVSU, Ferris State, Hillsdale, SVSU, Northwood would have been very good league. Forget the UP schools and Hillsdale.