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  • #16
    Originally posted by ForeverGreen View Post
    If he is pass happy, I can’t see how BW could be his type of QB. That isn’t to say there will be a change or BW won’t be successful, but it may mean that we don’t see the full extent of his offensive philosophy until he gets his style of QB behind center. It seems like HCRW trended more toward dual threat guys since taking over, so it will be interesting to see if that approach changes over the next couple recruiting cycles.

    Regardless, I assume there will be some compromise. HCRW obviously wants more points on the board, but I would think he would still want an offense that can control the ball for extended drives so the D doesn’t get compromised. He takes too much pride in strong defenses to acquiesce to becoming a team that constantly relies on winning shootouts.
    It’ll definitely be something to watch. The 2011 season, WSU offense averaged 41 pass attempts a game. I can’t see BW flourishing in that setting. There are definitely factors attributed to those numbers. WSU was 4-8, so likely playing catch-up a lot. In other stops, he's worked with qbs and was passing game coordinator, so I don’t think he’ll be afraid to throw it. I think ideally for most OCs, there would be balance, and I agree RW will still want to maintain the defensive identity he’s built here.
    Last edited by Alfred33; 01-10-2020, 02:46 PM.

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    • #17
      Heard JO was happy to remain on the staff in his new position.

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      • #18
        Why does everyone keep questioning the ability of the new coach to coach or BW to be coached?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Brandon View Post
          Why does everyone keep questioning the ability of the new coach to coach or BW to be coached?
          I’m not questioning BW’s ability to be coached per se. I don’t see him flourishing in a pass heavy offense. That said, this guy has coached for 20 years. I’m sure he knows how to adjust to personnel. If anything, I’m just excited to see what the offense will be when he gets his guys in place. I’m also excited to see the new O this year.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ForeverGreen View Post

            I’m not questioning BW’s ability to be coached per se. I don’t see him flourishing in a pass heavy offense. That said, this guy has coached for 20 years. I’m sure he knows how to adjust to personnel. If anything, I’m just excited to see what the offense will be when he gets his guys in place. I’m also excited to see the new O this year.
            Fair enough. I've just seen a ton of posts that essentially have stated that "BW is who he is." My post was not necessarily a reaction to yours.

            It is the job of the OC to execute an offense that best maximizes the talent on that side of the ball within the greater philosophy of the team as a whole. Just because this guy was pass-heavy in the past doesn't mean he'll try to be pass-heavy now. But, he could very well be pass-heavy as a philosophy.

            A more accurate analysis would involve looking at the before/after run/pass ratio of the offense five years prior and five years after his tenure at any stop. See how that compares. Additionally, take into account the coach under which he was the OC in case that changes in the before/after tenure at any of those stops. That might give a more accurate assessment or it could absolutely justify what's already been said.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Brandon View Post
              Why does everyone keep questioning the ability of the new coach to coach or BW to be coached?
              That wasn’t the intention of my posts either. My hope is that no matter what the pass/run balance is, he can coach BW up and make him a more effective thrower. Based on his experience with QBs and the passing game in his various stops, I think there is some hope for that to happen. I have no idea what kind of offense he’ll run here, but from everything I’ve seen or read about him, I doubt it’ll be the triple option. ;)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by NWCat View Post
                JO has never been QB coach. He was receivers coach up until this year but was RB coach this year.

                ACU WR coach has been filled according to FootballScoop.
                Yea, my bad. JO was the receivers coach and is now the receivers coach again.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ForeverGreen View Post
                  If he is pass happy, I can’t see how BW could be his type of QB. That isn’t to say there will be a change or BW won’t be successful, but it may mean that we don’t see the full extent of his offensive philosophy until he gets his style of QB behind center. It seems like HCRW trended more toward dual threat guys since taking over, so it will be interesting to see if that approach changes over the next couple recruiting cycles.

                  Regardless, I assume there will be some compromise. HCRW obviously wants more points on the board, but I would think he would still want an offense that can control the ball for extended drives so the D doesn’t get compromised. He takes too much pride in strong defenses to acquiesce to becoming a team that constantly relies on winning shootouts.
                  I don't think he wants more points on the board in general. He wants the floor to be raised and more consistency. NW has had dual threat QBs on the roster ever since Bolles I arrived on campus (and Lamberson prior to that). 2017 would be the closest exception when Martin took a majority of the snaps. That isn't a HCRW trend. While I don't think it is a flashy hire, I do think he checks a lot of boxes with a wealth of experience at various levels, trust of the HC, should have knowledge of the region, and provides an older presence on the offensive side of the ball.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Taxman View Post

                    I don't think he wants more points on the board in general. He wants the floor to be raised and more consistency. NW has had dual threat QBs on the roster ever since Bolles I arrived on campus (and Lamberson prior to that). 2017 would be the closest exception when Martin took a majority of the snaps. That isn't a HCRW trend. While I don't think it is a flashy hire, I do think he checks a lot of boxes with a wealth of experience at various levels, trust of the HC, should have knowledge of the region, and provides an older presence on the offensive side of the ball.
                    Honestly, by “dual threat”, I meant a guy who you intend to run 7-10 designed runs each game. Yes, Lambo, the Bolles, Zimmerman, and others were all mobile, but they weren’t really out there to rack up running stats. Regardless, I’m detached from the program (never was attached), but I thought I had heard HCRW was looking more for kids who could run the option read game because they were wanting to be more of a ball control offense. BW clearly hasn’t been a drop back kind of QB to this point and the majority of successful QBs at NW have done that well. He’s also been thrust on the field at a younger age than the others.

                    Anyway, most of us here were calling for change and we got it. Now we get to sit back and watch (and probably complain about the new guy if we don’t win the NC next year).

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                    • #25
                      On the lighter side side, NW missourian sports editor has an interesting story about NW radio's Tritten.

                      https://www.nwmissourinews.com/featu...7d454e247.html

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