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    The landscape of all colleges and their sports programs will no doubt change. For instance, academic program will now center heavily on STEM. Teenagers can now see (no need to lecture them) on degrees that are truly essential. These teenagers can see who is and is not working. I think those colleges that still hold on to worthless liberal arts programs will lose money. Technology will change the landscape as students don’t have to be on campus. If universities are going to hold on to the belief that 20,000 students will be on campus will live and die in the past. Fewer students on campus translates to fewer students in the stands. When all is said and done, fewer students in the stands culminates (over time) to less alumni support. I see many programs dropping expensive sports programs for cheaper ones. Thoughts?

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    I think some schools will close altogether and those that don’t will look vastly different.

    It appears MWSU was in worse shape than NWMSU before CoVid19. Could they forced to return to Jr College status?

    I could see some type of merger or partnership with NWMSU with each school concentrating on certain areas(ex teaching, business, computer science at NWMSU and nursing, music, law enforcement at MWSU).

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    • #3
      This has been coming for a while, but covid is certainly going to speed it along, imo.

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      • #4
        I hate to see ANY college football program collapse. I live for College Gameday. Give me Gameday or give me death. I can’t imagine a football coach visiting a recruit selling a degree in the institution’s humanities program. I think survival will start with degrees. Northeastern State has an Opthamology Department....keep it and sell it. I think it starts with academics offered. I also believe that those colleges who choose fear will fade away. Go back to the Spanish Flu of 1918-1919. Institutions back then decided to hunker down and live in fear.

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        • #5
          Has anyone actually spoken with students about their experiences with online classes? The ones I have do not like it and are clamoring to be back on campus. While I agree with the loss of worthless majors, I'm not yet convinced a majority of the traditional students will go for the online college experience. I do think things will look different...if college football gets taken away in the fall I think that will really change the sports landscape...losing out on all the money from CFB will kill college sports as we know it.

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          • #6
            So let’s assume, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know about “ASSUMING”, but let’s assume....30 college programs defy the government and say we are open and we are playing this fall. So”X” University (Division 1) calls your program and say, “Let’s play, but all you get is t,v, coverage on ESPN and nothing else” do you play? Let’s pretend “whatever big name University says, Let’s play...........do you play or do you hide in fear?

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            • #7
              I'd play, but I don't think arenas of higher education would...too much risk for bad publicity and most if not all follow the flawed models predicting millions of deaths and the only way to stop it is total shutdown. The non-shut down models in Japan, Singapore, Taiwan have much lower death rates and Sweden's are similar to the US and none of them shut down their economies.

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              • #8
                My daughter is in school, and while she and her friends miss the social aspects of being in on and around campus, they don't mind the online classes.

                Most students these days turn in assignments remotely, and take an onlne class or two a semester anyway.

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                • #9
                  Although the experiantial/hands on classes are impossible to do remotely, so people in majors with lots of that are definitely getting shortchanged.

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                  • #10
                    Urbana from the MEC closed today.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by libertybearcat View Post
                      Has anyone actually spoken with students about their experiences with online classes? The ones I have do not like it and are clamoring to be back on campus. While I agree with the loss of worthless majors, I'm not yet convinced a majority of the traditional students will go for the online college experience. I do think things will look different...if college football gets taken away in the fall I think that will really change the sports landscape...losing out on all the money from CFB will kill college sports as we know it.
                      I was thinking last night...

                      I wish a way existed to evaluate the quality of learning in the two models beyond "I like it" or "I don't like it." I don't know that there is.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Brandon View Post

                        I was thinking last night...

                        I wish a way existed to evaluate the quality of learning in the two models beyond "I like it" or "I don't like it." I don't know that there is.
                        My oldest is in Engineering at Iowa State...that is definitely a hands on major. She's missing out on a Materials Engineering Lab this spring...watching videos of it instead of doing it. She doesn't think it is any substitute.

                        If attending college on campus stops or is significantly negatively impacted, I doubt college sports will continue to be anywhere near what they are now.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by libertybearcat View Post

                          My oldest is in Engineering at Iowa State...that is definitely a hands on major. She's missing out on a Materials Engineering Lab this spring...watching videos of it instead of doing it. She doesn't think it is any substitute.

                          If attending college on campus stops or is significantly negatively impacted, I doubt college sports will continue to be anywhere near what they are now.
                          I can definitely see that being a major where on campus is really important..

                          As to the latter part. Big time college sports is so far removed from its' original purpose that it might be a good thing in some ways.

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                          • #14
                            I’ve always felt the “social” experience of college, or even high school for that matter, is in many cases just as important in ones development as the education itself. It will be very interesting to see how things develop over the next 30-60 days, and far as my kids are concerned I hope things get back to near “normal” sooner rather than later.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by libertybearcat View Post
                              I'd play, but I don't think arenas of higher education would...too much risk for bad publicity and most if not all follow the flawed models predicting millions of deaths and the only way to stop it is total shutdown. The non-shut down models in Japan, Singapore, Taiwan have much lower death rates and Sweden's are similar to the US and none of them shut down their economies.
                              Sweden’s death rate from Covid is greater than 10 percent as of yesterday, and are now back tracking. I’d hardly call it a success. Japan has hardly tested anyone.

                              taiwan And Singapore have done a lot of stay at home and quarantine orders.
                              Last edited by GorillaTeacher; 04-22-2020, 06:46 AM.

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