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  • #16
    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    The biggest QB hole to fill is definitely Gleeson at ESU. He carried that team a lot.

    MW QB will be tough to replace.
    Agree Gleeson is the biggest loss. Gunnar Gundy is transferring in from Ok State, I don't think he's Gleeson, but I think he'll keep us competitive with everyone beside UCM/Pitt. Allegedly he's competing for a starting job with a transfer from Stony Brook that came in the Spring (Bryden I think?), but the way people near the program were talking about Gundy, I suspect it's his job to lose.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by GreenwoodBearcat View Post

      Maybe one of Pitts 8th String QB's can enter the portal quickly and enroll
      They all transferred out already. I think they only have 2 or 3. Dodson, a transfer from SIU, and a Frosh.

      I take that back. They also have a UNI transfer and a UCO transfer listed.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by D2Rover View Post

        Agree Gleeson is the biggest loss. Gunnar Gundy is transferring in from Ok State, I don't think he's Gleeson, but I think he'll keep us competitive with everyone beside UCM/Pitt. Allegedly he's competing for a starting job with a transfer from Stony Brook that came in the Spring (Bryden I think?), but the way people near the program were talking about Gundy, I suspect it's his job to lose.
        I think Gleeson, Garrison from Pitt, and the Back from NW may be the biggest losses in the conference.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

          I think Gleeson, Garrison from Pitt, and the Back from NW may be the biggest losses in the conference.
          I’d add TJ Davis but UNKs fall off last season got him lost in the shuffle.

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          • #20
            Losing Jay Harris to the Ducks is a huge loss to NW’s O but I’m not surprised he left and don’t begrudge him taking a shot. His biggest downside was a tendency to fumble when fighting for extra yards

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
              The biggest QB hole to fill is definitely Gleeson at ESU. He carried that team a lot.

              MW QB will be tough to replace.
              After 2012 season: Tyler Eckenrode is going to be hard to replace at QB for ESU. (Enter Brent Wilson taking Hornets to the playoffs twice in his two healthy years)
              After 2015 season: You can't replace a Brent Wilson at QB for ESU. (Enter Braxton Marstall who won 11 straight games in between losses to one of the best NWMSU teams in 2016)
              After 2018 season: Braxton Marstall was good but can ESU keep plugging in new QBs? (Enter Braden Gleason who set about every passing record in ESU history and was the first QB to win nine games in back to back years)
              After 2023 season: Braden Gleason carried ESU a lot.

              Higgins has said that 1-4 this is the most talented QB room he has ever had - and the 2015 room had three guys that would eventually earn Offensive Player of the Year honors in a D2 conference (Wilson 2015 MIAA, Ty Reasnor 2017 GAC at Ark Tech, Marstall 2018 MIAA). This is the first time Higgins has had a transfer QB in the mix to start the season since 2009 and if senior Chase Ricke earns the spot he will be the oldest first time starter for ESU in a long time.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hornetfan View Post

                After 2012 season: Tyler Eckenrode is going to be hard to replace at QB for ESU. (Enter Brent Wilson taking Hornets to the playoffs twice in his two healthy years)
                After 2015 season: You can't replace a Brent Wilson at QB for ESU. (Enter Braxton Marstall who won 11 straight games in between losses to one of the best NWMSU teams in 2016)
                After 2018 season: Braxton Marstall was good but can ESU keep plugging in new QBs? (Enter Braden Gleason who set about every passing record in ESU history and was the first QB to win nine games in back to back years)
                After 2023 season: Braden Gleason carried ESU a lot.

                Higgins has said that 1-4 this is the most talented QB room he has ever had - and the 2015 room had three guys that would eventually earn Offensive Player of the Year honors in a D2 conference (Wilson 2015 MIAA, Ty Reasnor 2017 GAC at Ark Tech, Marstall 2018 MIAA). This is the first time Higgins has had a transfer QB in the mix to start the season since 2009 and if senior Chase Ricke earns the spot he will be the oldest first time starter for ESU in a long time.
                Gleeson was considerably better than all the other QB's you mentioned, imo.

                You are comparing the guy who holds the low score at the local 9 hole muni course to Tiger Woods.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post

                  Gleeson was considerably better than all the other QB's you mentioned, imo.

                  You are comparing the guy who holds the low score at the local 9 hole muni course to Tiger Woods.
                  Wilson and Marstall were both MIAA Offensive Players of the Year. Wilson in a year that NWMSU won the national championship when Brady Bolles started every game for the Bearcats.
                  Not to put him down but Gleason was never a first team All-MIAA quarterback. Not sure that fits the Tiger Woods vs. muni player analogy.

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                  • #24
                    Shout out Lamberson for turning it around in two years, but he was not left the **** storm Atiba was, so
                    Atiba > Lamberson.

                    1. UCM (by a land slide)
                    2. Pitt State (Not really sure but QB play is there)
                    3. UCO (Shout out Dawson Herl)
                    4. Northwest Missouri State (check coaches search history)
                    5. Missouri Southern
                    6. Fort Hays (Toss up with Southern)
                    7. Missouri Western
                    8. Emporia State (prove me wrong without lefty)
                    9. Washburn
                    10. Kearney

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MOSOFAN2 View Post
                      Shout out Lamberson for turning it around in two years, but he was not left the **** storm Atiba was, so
                      Atiba > Lamberson.

                      1. UCM (by a land slide)
                      2. Pitt State (Not really sure but QB play is there)
                      3. UCO (Shout out Dawson Herl)
                      4. Northwest Missouri State (check coaches search history)
                      5. Missouri Southern
                      6. Fort Hays (Toss up with Southern)
                      7. Missouri Western
                      8. Emporia State (prove me wrong without lefty)
                      9. Washburn
                      10. Kearney
                      Never thought I’d be offended by someone saying that UCM would win in a landslide. Dirty rotten lions.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MOSOFAN2 View Post
                        Shout out Lamberson for turning it around in two years, but he was not left the **** storm Atiba was, so
                        Atiba > Lamberson.

                        1. UCM (by a land slide)
                        2. Pitt State (Not really sure but QB play is there)
                        3. UCO (Shout out Dawson Herl)
                        4. Northwest Missouri State (check coaches search history)
                        5. Missouri Southern
                        6. Fort Hays (Toss up with Southern)
                        7. Missouri Western
                        8. Emporia State (prove me wrong without lefty)
                        9. Washburn
                        10. Kearney
                        How long before other schools come calling for Atiba? A young African American coach will be in high demand if he can have a winning season at MOSO!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MOSOFAN2 View Post
                          Shout out Lamberson for turning it around in two years, but he was not left the **** storm Atiba was, so
                          Atiba > Lamberson.

                          1. UCM (by a land slide)
                          2. Pitt State (Not really sure but QB play is there)
                          3. UCO (Shout out Dawson Herl) - Possible, but they didn't earn the #3 spot last season heading into 2024.
                          4. Northwest Missouri State (check coaches search history)
                          5. Missouri Southern - I will grant you Southern is improving under Atiba and they did upset MWSU in 2024, but come on they weren't even .500 last season. Like UCO, I don't think they have earned this spot yet. That could change soon, but I don't think they should be placed over Hays, Western, and probably not Emporia either who went 9-3 last season. I know they lost Gleason, but Gary Higgin's track record with replacing star QBs is impressive.
                          6. Fort Hays (Toss up with Southern)
                          7. Missouri Western - I get we lost our QB, but really? Went 8-4 and probably only missed the playoffs by one loss. Our new/old head coach Fenwick (OC under JP during his heyday) was a great hire. The disrespect is ridiculous...
                          8. Emporia State (prove me wrong without lefty)
                          9. Washburn
                          10. Kearney
                          Ah, a brand new college football season, and MoSo football optimism is high. While the Lions are improving under Atiba, I have some issues with your thoughts on how the MIAA teams stack up based on last season's results and the offseason that is coming to an end with the arrival of the 2024 season.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hornetfan View Post

                            Wilson and Marstall were both MIAA Offensive Players of the Year. Wilson in a year that NWMSU won the national championship when Brady Bolles started every game for the Bearcats.
                            Not to put him down but Gleason was never a first team All-MIAA quarterback. Not sure that fits the Tiger Woods vs. muni player analogy.
                            Gleeson is the first ESU QB I can remember who could just go completely carry a team like he could.

                            I do agree that Higgins has a fantastic history of developing QB's. Maybe ESU will be fine, but Gleeson is a really big loss, so Ima need to see it.

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                            • #29
                              It’s sad to see how NW has slipped since their last National title. RW was a great DC but so far that hasn’t translated to being a great HC imho.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by NWFanatic View Post
                                It’s sad to see how NW has slipped since their last National title. RW was a great DC but so far that hasn’t translated to being a great HC imho.
                                That is why there is a little fire under his keester. A new contract was not offered. New NW Pres waiting to see how year goes.

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