WT Football

[BuffaloChip]

How did Martinez play for 5?

I believe he did 1 year at NAzU, 2 at Baylor, 1 at Texas State, 1 at WT.

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

How did Martinez play for 5?

Grad year counts as the 5?

[WT_TKW]

With the COVID extension players have six years to play four seasons. You can not play for more than 4 seasons.

How did Martinez play for 5?

[MooseLodge]

Some have few, some have many. The better the team the more they seem to lose players at the DII ranks.

At FBS, most leaving are not getting playing time, hence they are looking for better opportunities.

It is the opposite at DII. The top guys are looking for D1.

Agree. And the amount of quality HS players looking for somewhere just to get started is huge. The D1 roster limits and transfer portal were both huge shots in the arm for the level of play at the lower divisions.

[ASUPops]

Every team has a "mass exodus of top players" these days. That's the game we are in. Those guys are trying to cash in on some NIL. Good for 'em. Doesn't mean they will be successful. Doesn't mean some won't return anyway. If RJ can play another year, he deserves a spot in D1, and good for him.

WT is just like every other football program out there - no better position and no worse - to get quality players to compete. They either will or they won't. Everyone else out there is doing their deal. WT I am sure is doing theirs. If you are ill-fitted for one year deals, you need to be out of the business by now.

Some have few, some have many. The better the team the more they seem to lose players at the DII ranks.

At FBS, most leaving are not getting playing time, hence they are looking for better opportunities.

It is the opposite at DII. The top guys are looking for D1.

[ASUPops]

Maybe it was the COVID extension as I now remember someone mentioning it last month.

I think (again not 100%) this is the last year for those COVID extensions.

With the COVID extension players have six years to play four seasons. You can not play for more than 4 seasons.

[Buff Fan 05]

Every team has a "mass exodus of top players" these days. That's the game we are in. Those guys are trying to cash in on some NIL. Good for 'em. Doesn't mean they will be successful. Doesn't mean some won't return anyway. If RJ can play another year, he deserves a spot in D1, and good for him.

WT is just like every other football program out there - no better position and no worse - to get quality players to compete. They either will or they won't. Everyone else out there is doing their deal. WT I am sure is doing theirs. If you are ill-fitted for one year deals, you need to be out of the business by now.

No doubt it's become a different process. I'm just not convinced this current staff can pull in the new talent needed to compete for the playoffs. Maybe I'm giving Bane too much credit for the offensive transfers this past season but the timing of the roster turnover didn't seem to be coincidence. We shall see, hopefully Lynn has a good plan. I'm definitely jaded from the post Carthel years. I went to WT in the early 2000s and Carthel took over the year after I graduated. Those were the good days haha

[MooseLodge]

RJ Martinez is on U. of Pittsburgh's radar as a possible landing spot. (not Pittsburg State).

[MooseLodge]

Yep and no matter what, it comes down to coaching.

WT the last 12 years hasnt made the playoffs and during that time they have seen teams not in existence at the time make the playoffs (UTPB), Teams pass them overall (Western Oregon), and been beaten by the worst teams no longer in existence (Simon Frasier).

High school seniors graduating were in kindergarten the last time WT played their last playoff game. Let that sink in.

But they won 8 and played a bit of post season. I'll take that as a win. Glass half full. Just gotta reload with more talent.

[Predatory Primates]

That vote by the NCAA is for D2 only. 5 years to play 5 seasons. No more reshirts.

Jan 13-16 is the vote.

[Try II]

I'm seeing that RJ Martinez and Sean 'Fats' Johnson are both annoucing they are in the transfer portal. I thought they were both out of eligibility.

Yeah Fats was at UNK 2021-23 (redshirt, played 5 games in 2002, 10 games in 2023). Guessing he's banking on 5 years of play. However, son, get a job!

[Buffalo/Islander Alum]

Every team has a "mass exodus of top players" these days. That's the game we are in. Those guys are trying to cash in on some NIL. Good for 'em. Doesn't mean they will be successful. Doesn't mean some won't return anyway. If RJ can play another year, he deserves a spot in D1, and good for him.

WT is just like every other football program out there - no better position and no worse - to get quality players to compete. They either will or they won't. Everyone else out there is doing their deal. WT I am sure is doing theirs. If you are ill-fitted for one year deals, you need to be out of the business by now.

Yep and no matter what, it comes down to coaching.

WT the last 12 years hasnt made the playoffs and during that time they have seen teams not in existence at the time make the playoffs (UTPB), Teams pass them overall (Western Oregon), and been beaten by the worst teams no longer in existence (Simon Frasier).

High school seniors graduating were in kindergarten the last time WT played their last playoff game. Let that sink in.

[MooseLodge]

It was mentioned that there is a vote by the NCAA, I believe next week, that would give some D2 players like RJ another season of eligibility. I wonder if they are hitting the transfer portal in preperation that the vote might go their way. However, I'm not sure that would apply to them moving up to FCS or FBS.

That vote by the NCAA is for D2 only. 5 years to play 5 seasons. No more reshirts.

[MooseLodge]

I honestly don't know the answer on the NIL. From seeing the mass exodus of top players this year I doubt it.

Every team has a "mass exodus of top players" these days. That's the game we are in. Those guys are trying to cash in on some NIL. Good for 'em. Doesn't mean they will be successful. Doesn't mean some won't return anyway. If RJ can play another year, he deserves a spot in D1, and good for him.

WT is just like every other football program out there - no better position and no worse - to get quality players to compete. They either will or they won't. Everyone else out there is doing their deal. WT I am sure is doing theirs. If you are ill-fitted for one year deals, you need to be out of the business by now.

[Roaming Buff]

I don't see how, unless the rules changed. Remember the D1 lacrosse star who played 4 years then went to Ferris and became the starting QB? He got an extra year because it was a different sport.

Martinez already got in 5 years, maybe he got in an extension due to COVID or because he only played in a few games at Baylor and Texas State.

https://gobuffsgo.com/sports/footbal...martinez/14059

It was mentioned that there is a vote by the NCAA, I believe next week, that would give some D2 players like RJ another season of eligibility. I wonder if they are hitting the transfer portal in preperation that the vote might go their way. However, I'm not sure that would apply to them moving up to FCS or FBS.