All NSIC fotball

[MrMustang]

Last year -- SMSU had the top of the 2 tacklers in Shane Ratkovich and Alex Ney. Ney got noticed but Ratkovich was dissed.

As I mentioned in another post, the Ratkovich diss was embarrassing given he set a conference record on TFL (21.5) !!! -- that is making plays, not racking up stats!

[BIGvikingFan]

Last year -- SMSU had the top of the 2 tacklers in Shane Ratkovich and Alex Ney. Ney got noticed but Ratkovich was dissed.

As I mentioned in another post, the Ratkovich diss was embarrassing given he set a conference record on TFL (21.5) !!! -- that is making plays, not racking up stats!

Perhaps, I don't know the kid. But you can rack up massive stats by ignoring your assignment and doing your own thing. When it works, you pad the stats. When it doesn't, the opponent gets yards and makes big plays, but that doesn't count against stats so you look like a stats superstar still. One of the reasons that overall performance of the defense should be a major factor.

[Matt Witwicki]

http://northernsun.org/news/2019/11/...announced.aspx

[Purple Mav Man]

http://northernsun.org/news/2019/11/...announced.aspx

[Matt Witwicki]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football39s
Glad to see OJ get the Coach, getting AU to 9 wins. So..Wayne and SMSU get 2 guys on the First Team D, USF gets none..? How about Brody Grantham? I was expecting to see Cole Schroedermeier (MSU-DB) on 1st team, does a lot for the top D. Having an overall list would be far better.

(additional thoughts)

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

[NSU4LIFE]

Zach Bohenkamp is the only one for the Wolves that I feel should have gotten a nod. Top 10 in pass defends and INTs

[Tundra_Man]

Glad to see Thuro Reisdorfer get some recognition. While he's not quite at Gabe Watson's level, he did a great job stepping up and (literally) carrying the load of USF's running attack.

[Clean Liver]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

Agree. But who was the 2nd Team Coach of the year, Ass't Coach of the Year...?

[Purple Mav Man]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football39s
Glad to see OJ get the Coach, getting AU to 9 wins. So..Wayne and SMSU get 2 guys on the First Team D, USF gets none..? How about Brody Grantham? I was expecting to see Cole Schroedermeier (MSU-DB) on 1st team, does a lot for the top D. Having an overall list would be far better.

(additional thoughts)

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

You get a trophy. And you get a trophy...

Overall All-Conference, 1st, 2nd and HM.
You can stretch the 1st & 2nd team O/D from the current 12 to 15/16 to make sure deserving people are rewarded at the right level.

Coaches probably like this format though. They can certainly go sell a recruit about being all-conference!

[BIGvikingFan]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football39s
Glad to see OJ get the Coach, getting AU to 9 wins. So..Wayne and SMSU get 2 guys on the First Team D, USF gets none..? How about Brody Grantham? I was expecting to see Cole Schroedermeier (MSU-DB) on 1st team, does a lot for the top D. Having an overall list would be far better.

(additional thoughts)

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

Makes sense the best team in the division has the most, but 20 seams excessive. NSIC is a large conference, twice that of some others, so I like the divisional all-star lists. It's good for recognition and good for D2 recruiting. The players know that being honorable mention DB only means your on the bottom end the top 25 of DBs in the conference, and so on.

I'd support additionally rolling it up at the conference level but keep in mind that increases the politics. You can already see guys in there higher than they should be because someone said "oh crap, we have no one from this school in there".

[MrMustang]

Perhaps, I don't know the kid. But you can rack up massive stats by ignoring your assignment and doing your own thing. When it works, you pad the stats. When it doesn't, the opponent gets yards and makes big plays, but that doesn't count against stats so you look like a stats superstar still. One of the reasons that overall performance of the defense should be a major factor.

fair point. That was not the case. It was just a weird oversight. that is all I am saying. He made plays all over the field.

[Winona_20_20DB]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football39s
Glad to see OJ get the Coach, getting AU to 9 wins. So..Wayne and SMSU get 2 guys on the First Team D, USF gets none..? How about Brody Grantham? I was expecting to see Cole Schroedermeier (MSU-DB) on 1st team, does a lot for the top D. Having an overall list would be far better.

(additional thoughts)

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

Wondering why Cam gavin did not make at least 2^nd Team. I checked the stats of 1^st and 2^nd Team Players at DB: Looks like 2-3 players he could have replaced. 3 DBs from 1 Team is a Stretch.

	Games	Tackles Solo	Tackles Assist	Total	TFL	Sack	Int	PBU	0	0	FF	0	0	Passes Defended
Rank compared to 1st and 2nd Team South DBs		4th	T-4th	T-5th	NR	NR	4th	1st	0	0	T-1	0	0	T-1st
Gavin, Cam Winona St	10	34	13	47	0-0	0	3	9	0	0	1	0	0	12

1st Team South	Games	Tackles Solo	Tackles Assist	Total	TFL	Sack	Int	PBU	0	0	FF	0	0	Passes Defended
Eli Weber	11	44	16	60	7.5	1	4	8	0	0	FF	0	0	12
Jack Curtis	11	13	5	18	0.5	1	2	5	0	0	FF	0	0	7
Cory Hollowell	11	31	24	55	0.5	Sack	Int	4	0	0	FF	0	0	4
Isaiah Hall	10	30	18	48	1	Sack	2	8	0	0	1	0	0	10

2nd Team South	Games	Tackles Solo	Tackles Assist	Total	TFL	Sack	Int	PBU	0	0	FF	FR	0	Passes Defended
Cole Schroeder	11	37	9	46	0-0	1	4	2	0	0	1	1	0	6
Parrish Marrow	11	5	5	10	0-0	0-0	1	3	0	0	FF	0	0	4
Michael Kloza	10	32	12	44	5.5	1	0	5	0	0	FF	0	0	5
Tucker Stout	11	36	13	49	5	1	5	4	0	0	1	0	0	9

[Umdfan35]

Matt Witwicki
@WittD2Football39s
Glad to see OJ get the Coach, getting AU to 9 wins. So..Wayne and SMSU get 2 guys on the First Team D, USF gets none..? How about Brody Grantham? I was expecting to see Cole Schroedermeier (MSU-DB) on 1st team, does a lot for the top D. Having an overall list would be far better.

(additional thoughts)

Stevens from UIU (WR) should be higher up than HM. I agree with the brunt of the selections....but 20 guys from UMD making the squad, on a down year....this is why they need an overall group and not this laundry list of selections. It's great for all the players, but it waters things down a lot. I could handle a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team....in an overall fashion....or 1st, 2nd, and HM. Just my own take. But when 20 guys from an 8-3 team make "All Conference", (and this isn't about UMD..could be any team)....it just seems like that's almost literally every starter on a team. Come on.

Agree UMD did have a down year, however the Bulldogs were still undefeated in the North Division, and beat everyone including BSU by significant margin, so I think 20 in the North is deserving. I could see an All NSICI" dream team" with all 16 teams, then having an All North and, All South, if they made the "dream Team" then they would not be on the All North or All South team.

[Purple Mav Man]

Agree UMD did have a down year, however the Bulldogs were still undefeated in the North Division, and beat everyone including BSU by significant margin, so I think 20 in the North is deserving. I could see an All NSICI" dream team" with all 16 teams, then having an All North and, All South, if they made the "dream Team" then they would not be on the All North or All South team.

This basically describes the difference between the divisions. Duluth lost 3/4 against south teams (two blowouts and one to Upper Iowa at HOME).

Not trying to start a North/South NSIC civil war, just pointing out how glaring it is this year especially.

[Purple Mav Man]

Wondering why Cam gavin did not make at least 2nd Team.