2022 MSU Maverick Football

[Purple Mav Man]

This begs the question....why sign with a school if he feels that he's a QB..and not a WR..? I'm guessing the player is ok with it..otherwise, why do it? There's gotta be plenty of good schools that'd let em play QB. I assume he's bought-in with Kato and their plans.


Here is the comments from Coach Hoffner on each recruit..and there's no question he's seeing Drew as a wideout..

https://msumavericks.com/documents/2...ning_Class.pdf

(page 4 he's talking about the players in the class, individually)

As for the QB position....I'm fully assuming it's Hayden Ekern's job as he did better than worse in playing maybe 30% of the snaps last year. Can run gracefully and didn't seem like a bad passer. Maybe the discussion was for years down the line..as Ekern will seemingly be around for a bit.

[Gridiron Bobby]

Just want to let you guys know that you guys have a stud at Quarterback but the coaching staff would rather use him at wide receiver. His name is Drew Kittelson from Blooming Prairie Mn. Fellas Drew is the real deal. Accurate, cannon for an arm and mobile. Nothing against Camden Dean at all but Drew's more accurate than he is. Drew- 34 tds, 6 int 64% comp. He had one bad game in the championship game. Before that he had 33 tds 3 int 69% comp. I don't care how good you look in camp, what happens when you put those pads on. There is no reason Drew is not competiting for a quarterback spot.

Give me a break. Such a stud that no one offered him as a QB? If the kid was good enough to play QB, then he'd be a QB. Let the coaches decide. Despite what we all think, we really don't know what we're talking about compared to the coaches. A productive small school MN QB doesn't mean he's a college QB, hate to burst your bubble.

[daboywonder2002]

This begs the question....why sign with a school if he feels that he's a QB..and not a WR..? I'm guessing the player is ok with it..otherwise, why do it? There's gotta be plenty of good schools that'd let em play QB. I assume he's bought-in with Kato and their plans.


Here is the comments from Coach Hoffner on each recruit..and there's no question he's seeing Drew as a wideout..

https://msumavericks.com/documents/2...ning_Class.pdf

(page 4 he's talking about the players in the class, individually)

As for the QB position....I'm fully assuming it's Hayden Ekern's job as he did better than worse in playing maybe 30% Dof the snaps last year. Can run gracefully and didn't seem like a bad passer. Maybe the discussion was for years down the line..as Ekern will seemingly be around for a bit.

I may not be a coach but Coach Hoffner is dead wrong on this one. It's hard to take a guy who has never played receiver and teach him how to play the position. He doesn't have the speed or athleticism to play qb. It's one thing to be a dual threat qb. It's another to be asked to play WR. Of course at Blooming Prairie, he was bigger and faster. But to ask him to beat corners 1 on 1, I just don't see it. Just because someone is tall doesn't mean they can play receiver. You have to learn how to change speeds, cut on a dime, stop and go. Even when you look at his film playing corner, the interrceptions he got those balls were just thrown up in the air. Drew's biggest upside is at quarterback. You don't put up the numbers Drew did and you ask him to play wide receiver? That's an insult. I wish Drew didn't commit so early but that was his only offer. Now personally I feel that there is a bias against Minnesota quarterbacks. There's no reason we never have a quarterback in top 247 or rivals rankings. The talent is there but it's not getting noticed. And if you can show me a quarterback from MInnesota that was top rated on 247 and rivals, i will admit im wrong. Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Wisconsin all have top quarterbacks. yet you're gonna tell me Minnesota doesn't. it's a joke.

[laker]

I may not be a coach but Coach Hoffner is dead wrong on this one. It's hard to take a guy who has never played receiver and teach him how to play the position. He doesn't have the speed or athleticism to play qb. It's one thing to be a dual threat qb. It's another to be asked to play WR. Of course at Blooming Prairie, he was bigger and faster. But to ask him to beat corners 1 on 1, I just don't see it. Just because someone is tall doesn't mean they can play receiver. You have to learn how to change speeds, cut on a dime, stop and go. Even when you look at his film playing corner, the interrceptions he got those balls were just thrown up in the air. Drew's biggest upside is at quarterback. You don't put up the numbers Drew did and you ask him to play wide receiver? That's an insult. I wish Drew didn't commit so early but that was his only offer. Now personally I feel that there is a bias against Minnesota quarterbacks. There's no reason we never have a quarterback in top 247 or rivals rankings. The talent is there but it's not getting noticed. And if you can show me a quarterback from MInnesota that was top rated on 247 and rivals, i will admit im wrong. Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Wisconsin all have top quarterbacks. yet you're gonna tell me Minnesota doesn't. it's a joke.

When I played at Ridgewater as a tight end, I was amazed at the speed of our offensive linemen. I asked them about their high school careers. LT- fullback. LG- QB. C- had played center. RG- running back. RT- fullback. Those guys had never played in the line. They did a hell of a job- we led the nation in rushing- and lost two games in two years. Athletes get moved around all of the time. As far as never playing the position- there have been several NFL players who played basketball instead of football in college.

I'll give the edge to Hoffner on this one.

[Purple Mav Man]

I may not be a coach but Coach Hoffner is dead wrong on this one. It's hard to take a guy who has never played receiver and teach him how to play the position. He doesn't have the speed or athleticism to play qb. It's one thing to be a dual threat qb. It's another to be asked to play WR. Of course at Blooming Prairie, he was bigger and faster. But to ask him to beat corners 1 on 1, I just don't see it. Just because someone is tall doesn't mean they can play receiver. You have to learn how to change speeds, cut on a dime, stop and go. Even when you look at his film playing corner, the interrceptions he got those balls were just thrown up in the air. Drew's biggest upside is at quarterback. You don't put up the numbers Drew did and you ask him to play wide receiver? That's an insult. I wish Drew didn't commit so early but that was his only offer. Now personally I feel that there is a bias against Minnesota quarterbacks. There's no reason we never have a quarterback in top 247 or rivals rankings. The talent is there but it's not getting noticed. And if you can show me a quarterback from MInnesota that was top rated on 247 and rivals, i will admit im wrong. Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Wisconsin all have top quarterbacks. yet you're gonna tell me Minnesota doesn't. it's a joke.

[Thunder]

I may not be a coach but Coach Hoffner is dead wrong on this one. It's hard to take a guy who has never played receiver and teach him how to play the position. He doesn't have the speed or athleticism to play qb. It's one thing to be a dual threat qb. It's another to be asked to play WR. Of course at Blooming Prairie, he was bigger and faster. But to ask him to beat corners 1 on 1, I just don't see it. Just because someone is tall doesn't mean they can play receiver. You have to learn how to change speeds, cut on a dime, stop and go. Even when you look at his film playing corner, the interrceptions he got those balls were just thrown up in the air. Drew's biggest upside is at quarterback. You don't put up the numbers Drew did and you ask him to play wide receiver? That's an insult. I wish Drew didn't commit so early but that was his only offer. Now personally I feel that there is a bias against Minnesota quarterbacks. There's no reason we never have a quarterback in top 247 or rivals rankings. The talent is there but it's not getting noticed. And if you can show me a quarterback from MInnesota that was top rated on 247 and rivals, i will admit im wrong. Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Wisconsin all have top quarterbacks. yet you're gonna tell me Minnesota doesn't. it's a joke.

I could be wrong, but don't HS QBs change position in college all the time? In HS the best athlete is often put at QB. Maybe not so much at your bigger schools, but definitely at the smaller schools so prevalent in our region. Those kids usually end up playing WR, TE, DB, LB in college, something other than QB. I don't know anything about this kid, and maybe he could be a college QB. But I don't think it is a huge stretch for him to learn how to be a successful WR in college.

[laker]

I could be wrong,

You aren't. Your reasoning is spot on.

[SW_Mustang]

I could be wrong, but don't HS QBs change position in college all the time? In HS the best athlete is often put at QB. Maybe not so much at your bigger schools, but definitely at the smaller schools so prevalent in our region. Those kids usually end up playing WR, TE, DB, LB in college, something other than QB. I don't know anything about this kid, and maybe he could be a college QB. But I don't think it is a huge stretch for him to learn how to be a successful WR in college.

Honestly, happens quite a bit.

One anecdotal example, we signed a pretty big MN QB recruit during the Gimbel years. He stuck around in the backup role, but only played when Gimbel was injured. For his final season, he switched the WR role and was fairly decent.

[Purple Mav Man]

I could be wrong, but don't HS QBs change position in college all the time? In HS the best athlete is often put at QB. Maybe not so much at your bigger schools, but definitely at the smaller schools so prevalent in our region. Those kids usually end up playing WR, TE, DB, LB in college, something other than QB. I don't know anything about this kid, and maybe he could be a college QB. But I don't think it is a huge stretch for him to learn how to be a successful WR in college.

[daboywonder2002]

Give me a break. Such a stud that no one offered him as a QB? If the kid was good enough to play QB, then he'd be a QB. Let the coaches decide. Despite what we all think, we really don't know what we're talking about compared to the coaches. A productive small school MN QB doesn't mean he's a college QB, hate to burst your bubble.

If he was in Texas, Florida, or Cali it would be a different story. There's a lot of good to great players who don't have offers. All that if you're good enough, they'll find you is bull crap. Josh Allen only one had offer. Mahomes and Herbert only had 3. Sometimes living in the right area and going to the right high school makes a huge difference.

[BIGvikingFan]

If he was in Texas, Florida, or Cali it would be a different story. There's a lot of good to great players who don't have offers. All that if you're good enough, they'll find you is bull crap. Josh Allen only one had offer. Mahomes and Herbert only had 3. Sometimes living in the right area and going to the right high school makes a huge difference.

But he isn't. If he really wants to play QB and is good, there are a lot of NSIC schools that would take him and give him a chance to prove it. If not, go D3. If he wants to help where he can for an established team, he made a good choice. I agree that there are a lot of missed diamonds in MN football. Subject for another thread but a lot of it is culture. In football states, it's more important to the community, HS coaches are paid to win and know they have to develop all levels of talent because you aren't going to have enough studs to win, kids buy into it and develop themselves, including the studs and so they get even better, and it all builds on itself. In MN most HS coaches play the studs they get and don't really develop talent. So if I'm recruiting, my odds are better spending time in football states.

[Purple Mav Man]

If he was in Texas, Florida, or Cali it would be a different story. There's a lot of good to great players who don't have offers. All that if you're good enough, they'll find you is bull crap. Josh Allen only one had offer. Mahomes and Herbert only had 3. Sometimes living in the right area and going to the right high school makes a huge difference.

How would the story be different? Allen, as you mentioned, got one offer, went to high school in CA. Mahomes, with the 3 offers you mentioned, went to high school in TX. Seems as though they were in the right place.

To your last line, agree. But that also has to do with playing schools with enough kids to tryout and MAKE the team, not just sign up for it.

[daboywonder2002]

Tyler Johnson was a freakish athlete so i could see the change to play WR. Drew to me doesn't have that type of athleticism. Even a guy like Julian Edelman who made the switch had some experience playing special teams so he could at least catch the ball. Just because you're tall and long doesn't mean you can play receiver. That's like asking Josh Allen or Herbert to play receiver.

[Purple Mav Man]

Tyler Johnson was a freakish athlete so i could see the change to play WR. Drew to me doesn't have that type of athleticism. Even a guy like Julian Edelman who made the switch had some experience playing special teams so he could at least catch the ball. Just because you're tall and long doesn't mean you can play receiver. That's like asking Josh Allen or Herbert to play receiver.

[Purple Mav Man]

Offseason discussions are always better than in-season :)